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Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:10 am to Odysseus32
I will pray for you to find Christ
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:11 am to Jake88
Agreed Jake. Lol same name. The left is trying to kill the nuclear family. Why can’t they just let us be? You don’t see us doing this to them.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:11 am to lsunurse
I’m not necessarily a fan of some social paradigms these days (ie Teen Mom, etc), but I also don’t think the majority of single moms wanted it that way and actually do struggle. From that, if they are celebrating the impending arrival or bringing children to mass/church, why would any decent person want to ridicule them for it? Labeling/treating the situation as a mistake most certainly increases the odds that the outcome becomes so.
If a single mom is in the front row of church professing her faith, great on her. Period.
“Get off my lawn!” is actually not becoming, old fellas.
If a single mom is in the front row of church professing her faith, great on her. Period.
“Get off my lawn!” is actually not becoming, old fellas.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:11 am to Jake88
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Yes. It is growing amongst all races. The destruction of the nuclear family is a wonderful way for the Left to have citizens grow more and more dependent on government.
This guy who wrote a very influential book around 1850 or so included this in said book. His goal was to destroy anything and everything that was held sacred or normal in society. People still read this book and still subscribe to his philosophy, despite MILLIONS of lives lost in service to this world view. Lots of well-read people all over the Earth subscribe to this. No one seems to have learned despite all the lives lost intentionally to impose this system.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:12 am to 904Jake
Lyndon B. Johnson
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:12 am to Yewkindewit
It’s truly starting to freak me out. Jacksonville is changing into this ghetto trash place of unwed families
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:12 am to The Spleen
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overbearing dogma
If church is anything these days, it’s comfortable and easy.
If someone says that though, then they’re shrinking from a challenge, and that’s the wrong choice.
Challenges make us stronger, better.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:12 am to Prominentwon
quote:This is simply incorrect. OOW births are far more likely to qualify for government handouts and are more likely to produce offspring who engage in criminal behavior. Multiply that by millions and it does impact me.
If they’re not bothering you. If they’re not pushing their lifestyle on you. Why do you care? It has ZERO effect on your life. It has nothing to do with you.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:14 am to Jake88
Jake, serious question: how old are you?
That’s not rhetorical or mean spirited......I’m reading your position and it’s very detailed/antiquated for a younger person.
That’s not rhetorical or mean spirited......I’m reading your position and it’s very detailed/antiquated for a younger person.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:15 am to 904Jake
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The left is trying to kill the nuclear family. Why can’t they just let us be?
go read my post
that's why
the family unit is an extension of the individual unit. if you value individualism, you will never accept marxism. if you value your family over the state, you will never be a good Marxist
but, more importantly, Marxism will never be an option unless the lower class rebels. promoting suboptimal behaviors ensures structural barriers for the lower class, which enables the path to Marxism. the lower class has been sold a bill of goods the past 60 years and now view the more optimal decisions as "privilege" (see: nuclear family privilege)
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:16 am to CharlesLSU
Late 40s.
Make certain you are asking the correct "Jake." I'm not the OP.
Make certain you are asking the correct "Jake." I'm not the OP.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:17 am to lsunurse
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How very Christ-like of all of you
When did Jesus say thou shalt go to showers of unwed mothers and celebrate while bringing them diapers and onesies? Lol.
We all sin....but we should have shame for those sins and be repentant...not flaunt our sins and the church shouldn't praise the sin.
The church should help its congregation overcome their sins and repent.....not accept their sins for fear of political incorrectness.
Having children out of wedlock shouldn't be a badge of honor and shouldnt be accepted as the norm for our society.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:18 am to CharlesLSU
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I’m not necessarily a fan of some social paradigms these days (ie Teen Mom, etc), but I also don’t think the majority of single moms wanted it that way and actually do struggle. From that, if they are celebrating the impending arrival or bringing children to mass/church, why would any decent person want to ridicule them for it? Labeling/treating the situation as a mistake most certainly increases the odds that the outcome becomes so.
well admitting the fact of the mistake isn't even really common anymore. that's kind of the heart of the issue
to use what nurse said, we are all sinners, sure. but there is a difference in saying "i am a sinner because..." and really getting into the details of our behaviors and saying "i am a sinner" as a general, vague concept that involves no self-reflection or criticism
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:18 am to theenemy
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When did Jesus say thou shalt go to showers
let's be clear
going to a bridal or baby shower is probably a sin in of itself, regardless of relationship status of the mother
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:22 am to lsunurse
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How very Christ-like of all of you
Treat everyone with love and compassion. That does not mean you start condoning sin. This sin has creeped into the cultural acceptance of Americans, where it’s now “OK”.
I had this same conversation with my 80 yr old grandmother this week. In the 50s, if someone got pregnant in high school or unmarried, they stopped taking to that person. It was literally the scarlet letter. Sleeping around wasn’t culturally accepted openly.
Now we agreed, shaming is not love, but acceptance is not OK either. It came down to lack of strong parenting in her mind.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's why the family unit is an extension of the individual unit. if you value individualism, you will never accept marxism. if you value your family over the state, you will never be a good Marxist but, more importantly, Marxism will never be an option unless the lower class rebels. promoting suboptimal behaviors ensures structural barriers for the lower class, which enables the path to Marxism. the lower class has been sold a bill of goods the past 60 years and now view the more optimal decisions as "privilege" (see: nuclear family privilege)
My point, exactly.
I simply tried to avoid the words Marxism or communism as that would shut down discussion.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:25 am to Jake88
I was asking the right Jake.
What’s got you so dialed into things like this?
Former military?
What’s got you so dialed into things like this?
Former military?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:27 am to 904Jake
Good way to defraud medicaid and other forms of government assistance.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 9:27 am to DiamondDog
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Treat everyone with love and compassion. That does not mean you start condoning sin.
yeah i mean, there is a difference in exiling someone and saying (and having them admit) that they really fricked up
isn't that the "love the sinner, not the sin" line in practice?
all of these postmodern destructions of religion have made it so that religion is now being a tool used to attack people who don't condone sin/suboptimal behavior. you can't even tell someone they made a mistake, even though there is statistical evidence of that. oh no, instead the people who make more optimal decisions have to apologize for their more optimal decision-making and self flagellate in public
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