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re: Why Signature Bank was seized this weekend in the 3rd biggest bank failure in US history

Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1960 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:57 pm to
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The problem is that most bank investments are set up for a very long run, so if you need to cash them out in the short term, it's going to create problems.


So basically banks are using statistics to hold just enough of its customer’s money on hand to provide physical currency upon demand. It’s not gambling on people not needing it, but it’s close.



Banks typically hold plenty of cash on hand to meet any needs customers may have, furthermore - bond portfolios are typically structured in a way that nearly 45% of cashflows are back withing 3 years...that is down to around 30% right now

the thing about their bond portfolios is most are in agency backed collateral where they can borrow from the fhlb or the fed w/ a very small haircut...plenty of access to funds...only issue w/ that is once you get wholesale funding north of 20% it is looked at very poorly by analyst and regulators
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1407 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:59 pm to
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So what happens if we all just say “f it” and go get our money out of the banks and stuff it under our mattresses?


You can get your money and put it in your mattress if you happen to be one of the first 10% of people that try to make withdrawals. The other 90% get nothing but fairy dust and unicorn farts.

Fractional banking's entire premise is that no more than 10% of depositors will ever want their cash at the same time...
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:05 pm to
There are always runs and they always collapse. Repeated cycle of modern banking. It's what they're designed to do. Depressions are always transfers of wealth from the people to the elite. Money itself is the tool of sneaking away physical wealth. A bank collapse is their harvest, and it's inevitable.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2423 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:08 pm to
Well, way out here on a farm in the sticks of middle America I have been hearing for 10 days to two weeks that the banking industry was going to have severe problems by early April. Info sourced from bank insider so it must be common scuttlebutt in the industry. Why is anybody surprised? Because it happened a couple of weeks sooner than they expected?
Can you imagine what happens during the planting season if commerce is locked up? How many farm loan agreements will be honored and how may agricultural operations will fail for lack of funding?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59932 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:11 pm to
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and that rule he added that prevented the biden admin from changing anything for the last 26 months

How dare they?


Riiiiiiight b/c people like Manchin and Sinema totally would have sided w/Biden to do anything that would have taken money from their corporate donors. Sure sure sure.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10605 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Riiiiiiight b/c people like Manchin and Sinema totally would have sided w/Biden to do anything that would have taken money from their corporate donors. Sure sure sure.


If Biden ever had a good policy and wasn't proposing untenable outrageous budgets they just might.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75051 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Riiiiiiight b/c people like Manchin and Sinema totally would have sided w/Biden to do anything that would have taken money from their corporate donors. Sure sure sure.


If it was a big deal, they would have tried. Certainly walked back a ton of other stuff.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75485 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:19 pm to
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it's trump's fault




Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130334 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:29 pm to
Crypto and tech startups.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6789 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:47 pm to
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So what happens if we all just say “f it” and go get our money out of the banks and stuff it under our mattresses?

I guess we quickly find out that US monetary policy is the biggest pyramid scheme of all.
No, but you... you... you're thinking
of this place all wrong. As if I had
the money back in a safe. The money's
not here. Your money's in Joe's
house right next to yours. And in the
Kennedy house, and Mrs. Macklin's
house, and a hundred others. Why,
you're lending them the money to
build, and then, they're going to
pay it back to you as best they can.
Now what are you going to do?
Foreclose on them?
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1407 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:14 pm to
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No, but you... you... you're thinking of this place all wrong


It would have been very different if Mr. Potter was a Commie and Pottersville was in debt for $30T to the Chinese. He would jump.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47303 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:28 pm to
Funny that basically the three largest crypto friendly banks are closed now. Including the two largest on/off ramps for crypto now as well..

Silvergate Exchange Network (SEN) was used by many exchanges throughout the space

Coindesk Silvergate Exchange Network Shut Down

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SEN is a 24/7 instant settlement service the bank's clients could use to conduct transactions between each other at any time, including nights and weekends. The bank counted a number of major crypto firms as its clients for the service, including Binance.US, Kraken, Gemini and ErisX (prior to its acquisition by Cboe).


Coindesk on Signet

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Signature Bank, another crypto-friendly bank based in New York, offers a program called Signet, launched in 2019 and using blockchain technology to allow for real-time settlements. It is the only other banking alternative to SEN that allows for instant U.S. dollar transfers to exchanges – as of now.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3399 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:11 pm to
I wasn’t clear. I apologize for that. The client that she spoke with had an investor that was funding his payroll with his own personal funds. Not the particular client she was talking to.

As of yesterday, a lot of her clients who were banking with SVB were moving over to Mercury Bank.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27772 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:20 pm to
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Bawney Fwank

adult lisp = undeveloped brain.


This is the guy who hushed and shamed the guy who tried ringing the bell, Sen Richard Baker. Despite the crash somehow ole fudge-packin' Barndog is still worth over $2M net worth.
Posted by ErnMcCracken
Member since Jan 2023
267 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:13 pm to
Go Woke
&
Go Broke
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3678 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:43 pm to
Peter Zeihan

While the banks don’t invest in tech and crypto, their clients did. This is a Cliff Notes version of SVB.
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:05 pm to
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So what happens if we all just say “f it” and go get our money out of the banks and stuff it under our mattresses?


Not long afterwards, those federal reserve notes wouldn't be worth the paper they're printed on.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21579 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:09 pm to
US DEBT will be 50 TRILLION before we know it.....
Posted by Smelder
Member since Dec 2017
215 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:11 pm to
Funny thing is just wait once this is all over and see how the government fixes it. It’s going to be with crypto and the USDC. That’s the whole plan and has been for a long time. It’s solves the liquidity prob and gives them control.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47303 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:23 pm to
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It’s going to be with crypto and the USDC


Lol not a chance. You are probably meaning CBDC, and no it won't be on the "Blockchain".
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