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re: Why mass shootings are so polarizing

Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44211 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
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Anything beyond that is just building strawmen.


Did you just assume that strawperson's gender you bigot?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12452 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
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Exactly. Anders Breivik killed 77 people in Norway, despite all the restrictions in the world. Dude literally started a frickin farm to get fertilizer to build bombs. Nothing is ever gonna stop a determined madman, and that’s an answer that society just can’t handle.


Yeeeea…. But I’d be happy if we can stop the less determined ones still.
Posted by Hobson
Member since Feb 2022
14 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
We are a society in decline. Period. The end.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15052 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
The UT shooting was a one-off occurrence in its era for single gunman shootings.

Pearl shocked everyone because it wasn't in the minds of people that that sort of thing could happen. It was all over the national news for at least a week. When Columbine happened less than a year later the death toll and scale of the incident shocked the country. We didn't know at the time that this would become a thing from that point on.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Certainly had a bearing on what he was able to do in his mental state. It’s insane to think otherwise.

We can have a gun problem and a mental health problem, simultaneously. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.


A stat on child deaths via shooting

I think it is not just the ease with which guns can be found in the US, it is the fact there is a deep-seated ideology in this country to always be "stronger" than anyone else and to go get what you want and BE the successful one. It has been with us since the beginning and has helped and hurt us.

If you have spent time with people not from US, they will often comment on Americans' arrogance/eternal optimism in themselves (two sides of one coin). However, that is the ideal, but not the reality of this country, isn't it? Not everyone succeeds, and those that do not, for many reasons, will often feel jilted out of their piece of the American Dream, and let's face it, the options at that point are to get through life as they find it, succeed by whatever means they can whether legal/moral or not, or hurt others to make sure everyone feels their pain.

Unfortunately, as a society, we tend to jeer at the first group, and then seemed shocked by the size of the latter two.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62563 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Only if your construe my post to be something it isn’t intended to be.
If you're explaining, you're losing.

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Anything beyond that is just building strawmen.
Or maybe your post wasn't as clear or deep as you thought it was? (no offense)
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:08 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12452 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Did you just assume that strawperson's gender you bigot?


I hope unlike the OPs assertion that this person is not so fragile as to kill for that comment
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31558 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:07 pm to
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The left believes in limiting freedom and censorship. Lie, cheat, steal and kill anyone that opposes them.


I just skimmed the first page of your posts, and not a single one of them wasn’t political, regardless of board. You might consider getting some help.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:08 pm to
Yes stop glorifying these killers.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53086 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:08 pm to
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And I ultimately think that media coverage is what drives them at this point. Mass shooting are an easy, nearly foolproof way for someone who feels ignored to go out “big”.

Columbine happened in '99 which would have also been around the time a lot of people were starting to get internet access in their homes. I remember a lot of the fascination people had with the "Trench coach mafia" and potentially ties to them being obsessed with Stephen King's book Rage.

It got tons of attention at the time and you can amplify that by about 10x today.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76546 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:09 pm to
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It’s the utter absence of understanding of one another, particularly those outside our own paradigms of normal.
I disagree to a degree.

It isn’t a loss of understanding.

It is merely a loss of commonality.

The major groups in this country have nothing in common with each other. There is no cohesiveness in our communities.

That goes down to the basic fiber of what makes up our realities.

They see basic concepts completely differently.

When you have nothing in common, you have nothing to bond you together to allow for that understanding to grow.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44211 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:09 pm to
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I hope unlike the OPs assertion that this person is not so fragile as to kill for that comment


I'm loading up my fully automatic high capacity clip assault dildo launcher as we speak.

He'll face my wrath in a stream of foot long floppy dongs!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31558 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:10 pm to
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Or maybe your post wasn't as clear or deep as you thought it was?


It was clear; it also triggered people just like I thought it would.

I’ll note, once again, that not a single person has been able to say that a single statement I made in that first post is incorrect.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62563 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:11 pm to

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If you have spent time with people not from US, they will often comment on Americans' arrogance/eternal optimism in themselves (two sides of one coin). However, that is the ideal, but not the reality of this country, isn't it? Not everyone succeeds, and those that do not, for many reasons, will often feel jilted out of their piece of the American Dream
Seems like an odd thing to say about a country with million of people streaming across the border to get in.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31558 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Did you just assume that strawperson's gender you bigot?


Come on, if anyone on this board built a strawwoman, they would be too busy fricking it to post
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49890 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
Also they played violent video games

The media attention given to those two worthless fricks led to what we’re seeing today
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35788 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Guns are to the right what abortion is to the left. Both sides believe that the fundamental issue is personal liberty


Well, one is specifically protected in the Constitution and one is not. So there's that.

And the Declaration of Independence has "the right to life" as an inalienable right.

I'm not even a big pro-life guy, but making a logical argument in support of abortion at any point in the pregnancy is a tenuous one (but let's be honest, logic has nothign to do with it).
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62563 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:13 pm to
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It was clear; it also triggered people just like I thought it would.
I hope one day to find someone that loves me as much as joshjm loves joshjsm.

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I’ll note, once again, that not a single person has been able to say that a single statement I made in that first post is incorrect.
that's teh beauty of projecting other people's feelings and emotions, iddinit?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:15 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:13 pm to
You first creep.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148228 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:14 pm to
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We are told that it’s racist to have pride in who you are, what country you belong to. You are a bigot if you believe there are only males and female.
that has never once happened to me.

You should either find new folks you hangout with and/or don’t take what some mental illness patient says as gospel
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