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re: Why Louisiana stays poor

Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:29 am to
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:29 am to
You sound like a bigot.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53047 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:30 am to
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Uneducated population voting in the same corrupt lawmakers because they are Republicans. Lawmakers use religion and fear to control the uneducated.


Our governor is a Democrat. Our 3 biggest cities? - all run by Democrats.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:34 am to
Regardless of political party there has always been corruption in Louisiana.
Posted by HighAnkleSprain
Pierre Part
Member since Sep 2017
149 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:36 am to
Poverty because of Tax Exemptions. I always thought it was a lack of self control, inability to restrain oneself, and littering the landscape with children born out of wedlock. You can't possibly spend the bad environment away. Keep the exemptions coming. Some of us that want to work will benefit. There is little hope for those that don't want to work.

Maybe next week we can watch a video on reparations and how that will solve the problem.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:39 am to
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You need to wake up and realize without these capital investments, LA economy isn't shite and we get tax dollars BECAUSE of these capital investments.



You have no idea what you're talking about. Louisiana subsidies and tax exemptions to the petrochemical industry DWARF what Texas has done. You're cherry picking ONE facility. This is typical top down socialist governmental planning that any free market capitalist should be against.

Louisiana residents have bought this BS forever, that we can't tax large businesses or they won't come here. Movie biz, petro chem, whatever. I can't find a link to it, but the Advocate did an excellent series on this some years back showing how much more Louisiana gives than any state to the 'chosen' industries.

I built a warehouse years ago for a small manufacturing facility and got a 10 year tax exemption. Sure as hell took it, but I was going to build anyway. Petro chem facilities on the Mississippi are there because there's only 1 Mississippi. Sure, there's one or two that may consider another locations, but the VAST majority are there because that's what makes economic sense, and the very small property taxes don't even show up on the income statement relative to the volume of business done.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27484 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:39 am to
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Our governor is a Democrat. Our 3 biggest cities? - all run by Democrats.


In lies the problem
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:40 am to
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please define these "natural resources"



oil, natural gas, Mississippi River, access to Gulf of Mexico....you didn't know about these things?
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3883 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:45 am to
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Louisianas Economy is rough unless your In Baton Rouge or New Orleans


Is Lake Charles one of the top five fastest growing city in the US?

And just to make a quick point on the video, ITEP only offers a 5-10 year exemption on property taxes. Keep in mind an exemption is not the same as the government paying companies to come here. None of these "tax revenue" numbers exist without the expansion. So once idiots like TBR get together and convince localities to deny companies their ITEP applications, that tax money that will be realized in 5-10 years never exists at all.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36486 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:46 am to
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Ole War Skule


Just FYI, you really don't know what you are talking about.

You are akin to the people that say Trump doesn't pay taxes because he correctly used an NOL to offset income tax. They conveniently forget the 10s of millions of property, employment, and excise taxes paid during the same period.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295153 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:49 am to
Louisiana isn't poor because of a lack of taxes paid. It's poor because it doesn't attract corporate type jobs and the associated professional services that go around them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36486 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:52 am to
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It's poor because it doesn't attract corporate type jobs and the associated professional services that go around them.




Because a majority of the state is stupid and proud of it.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:54 am to
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And that's good for them, but not everyone wants to live in a concrete jungle.


I live in NW houston with plenty of houses but also plenty of green space.

You factor in all the items I outlined earlier and staggering how much money you can save in TX vs. LA. We save $403/month alone on car insurance savings, house insurance, and cheap electricity due to energy deregulation. Our October electric bill was $35.30 and gas was $25.11 for a 3,887 sq ft home.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133216 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:54 am to
It’s because of corrupt politicians, bankrupt cultures, and stupid voters.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:54 am to
A huge reason I left was the terrible roads. I'm also not a fan of "big government" conservatives / religious right that are just littered in this state.
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:55 am to
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Corrupt politicians and a high African American population is why Louisiana stays poor. Dumb white trash have a role too but to a lesser extent


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Louisiana is poor because of cultures that foment counterproductive and socially destructive habits and behavio


White people love blaming black people for their shortcomings. This type of mindset was introduced long ago in this white supremcist society we call America. Rich whites convinced poor whites that black people were the roadblock to their economic success. Stop blaming others and pull yourself up you dumb ignorant inbreeds. Louisiana been poor for a longtime. Let’s stop acting like its something new, and over this period of time who has controlled all the resources. White people, so if anyone is to blame its you all.


Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49775 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:56 am to
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3,887 sq ft home

I think you're missing Rogers point
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49775 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:57 am to
Don't see any race mentioned in that second quote
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15753 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:58 am to
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Louisiana subsidies and tax exemptions to the petrochemical industry DWARF what Texas has done. You're cherry picking ONE facility. This is typical top down socialist governmental planning that any free market capitalist should be against.

Louisiana residents have bought this BS forever, that we can't tax large businesses or they won't come here. Movie biz, petro chem, whatever. I can't find a link to it, but the Advocate did an excellent series on this some years back showing how much more Louisiana gives than any state to the 'chosen' industries.

I built a warehouse years ago for a small manufacturing facility and got a 10 year tax exemption. Sure as hell took it, but I was going to build anyway. Petro chem facilities on the Mississippi are there because there's only 1 Mississippi. Sure, there's one or two that may consider another locations, but the VAST majority are there because that's what makes economic sense, and the very small property taxes don't even show up on the income statement relative to the volume of business done.


Considering my career is in industrial construction, I actually do know what I am talking about as I sit in my office on a billion dollar chemical plant expansion. I can also tell you first hand how the cap on tax exemptions crippled the movie industry in Louisiana compared to before.

The projects I have done and the ones I know coming down the pipeline could all easily be done in TX or a number of other facilities but LA was chosen because of those tax exemptions. I am not saying every single one should be approved (like your warehouse) but when a company is looking to spend billions of dollars and is deciding between a few places, the one offering the best deal gets their business and tax dollars.

Look at Nashville, which was just announced for a huge Amazon investment, you think the $102M they are offering Amazon is not worth the 5,000 full-time jobs it's bringing too? I promise NOT. ONE. SINGLE. PERSON. in Louisiana would bitch if we offered Amazon these tax exemptions to get what Nashville is getting.

Links incase you don't know:

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Amazon is in store for $102 million in combined government incentives from the state of Tennessee and Metro Nashville in exchange for the 5,000 high-paying jobs the company's new operations site would bring downtown.


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In all three locations, the average salary for new employees will exceed $150,000 per year, Amazon announced. That six-figure salary looks very different in Nashville, though, where $150,000 will stretch much further than in New York City or Arlington.


Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:58 am to
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white supremcist society we call America


I see you trolling.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295153 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:59 am to
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Because a majority of the state is stupid and proud of it.


I don't think they're stupid, they're just complacent.

Most people in La have given up on change long ago, they've got a defeatist attitude toward the State in general. However it's a great lifestyle for them personally so they don't worry too much about it.

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