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re: Why Louisiana stays poor

Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:55 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:55 am to
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It starts at home. Get in kids mind they must go to school. If you see one snowflake you don't cancel school. If it might thunderstorm the next day you don't call off school in advance


Yeah, that's the main difference. Most kids go to school in inclement weather, ergo, they're dominating LA high schools.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:56 am to
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Louisianas Economy is rough unless your In Baton Rouge or New Orleans

ahem
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:57 am to
Yeah I thought that was a weird line of thought too

Also Houston would shut down like it was doomsday if it snowed more than a couple inches there
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15180 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:57 am to
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EXCELLENT video. Don't be a knucklehead and react negatively without listening and trying understand how absurd our tax exemption policies are here. Businesses DO NOT locate here for tax exemptions, they locate here because they HAVE TO. We don't take advantage of our natural resources, but give them away. Wake up people.


Incorrect! Read my post earlier. I am literally at my jobsite on a billion dollar expansion of an existing plant that could have been done in TX but the parent company chose LA because of the exemptions. I already know another project my company has for one of the facilities mentioned in the video. It's another billion dollar expansion that again the company chose LA over TX.

You need to wake up and realize without these capital investments, LA economy isn't shite and we get tax dollars BECAUSE of these capital investments.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:01 am to
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Also Houston would shut down like it was doomsday if it snowed more than a couple inches there



Yes, but doesn't shut down for a snowflake that may show up tomorrow. Point is it's the mindset. Offer tutors to the children if they need help. Pay the teachers more to attract the best and brightest teachers. Build new schools and offer new learning technology.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:05 am to
We all know that. You're preaching to the choir here

Just saying that bringing in the snowflake/thunderstorm thing was pretty dumb when you have so much other ammo
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:09 am to
EBR spends $10,755.00 per student
Zachary $9,780.00 per student

Katy ISD $8,596.00 per student.
Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.

I can tell you that Cy-Fair is building 4-5 new schools every year and constantly upgrading.

Starting teacher salary in Cy-Fair ISD is $53K with BS. EBR $44,500.00 with a BA degree,$48,400.00 with a PHD.

One has to wonder what EBR is spending their money on.

It all starts with education.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:09 am to
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Yep. “Trickle down” is pure BS:


Oh it trickles down...burning piss from the cock of corruption
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:10 am to
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One has to wonder what EBR is spending their money on.

Trying to get hopeless cases up to speed
Greasing their palms
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:12 am to
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One has to wonder what EBR is spending their money on


Corruption...

And honestly it's not the education itself...

People do not want their kids going to low scoring schools...so it's all of it, relatively safe demographics, new facilities, polished teachers and staff

Outside people aren't moving in unless that's in place...or they will be buying education outside of the public system
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:13 am to
Uneducated population voting in the same corrupt lawmakers because they are Republicans. Lawmakers use religion and fear to control the uneducated.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:15 am to
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Uneducated population voting in the same corrupt lawmakers because they are Republicans.

Yup sounds like BR and NOLA
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:15 am to
here's an article on why people are flocking to TX.

LINK

10 reasons why so many people are moving to Texas

1. Jobs.
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The unconventional oil and gas boom has helped turn Texas into an economic juggernaut, particularly world energy capital Houston, but growth has also been strong in tech, manufacturing and business services."


2. It's cheaper.
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Once employed, it's hugely important that your pay cheque goes as far as possible, says Kotkin.

"New York, LA and the [San Francisco] Bay Area are too expensive for most people to live, but Houston has the highest 'effective' pay cheque in the country."

Kotkin came to this conclusion after looking at the average incomes in the country's 51 largest metro areas, and adjusting them for the cost of living. His results put three Texan areas in the top 10.

Houston is top because of the region's relatively low cost of living, including consumer prices, utilities and transport costs and, most importantly, housing prices, he says.


3. Homes.
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Land is cheaper than elsewhere and the process of land acquisition very efficient, says Dr Ali Anari, research economist at the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University.

"From the time of getting a building permit right through to the construction of homes, Texas is much quicker than other states.

"There is an abundant supply of land and fewer regulations and more friendly government, generally a much better business attitude here than other states."


4. Low tax.
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Texas is one of only seven states where residents pay no personal state income tax, says Kay Bell, contributing tax editor at Bankrate and Texan native.

The state has a disproportionate take from property taxes, which has become a big complaint among homeowners, she adds. But overall, only five states had a lower individual tax burden than Texas, according to Tax Foundation research.

There are also tax incentives for businesses and this week legislators cut more than $1bn off proposed business taxes.


7. Family-friendly. Because of its good-value housing, Texas has been particularly popular with families, and some of its cities now have an above-average number of children.

In Texas, you can have a reasonable mortgage and pretty good schools, says Grieder. And restaurants are invariably family-friendly.

8. Fewer rules.
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"Texas is liberal in the classic sense, it's laissez-faire, so there's a lack of regulations," says Grieder, and this can apply to the obvious (business regulations) or the less obvious (city rules).

"The classic social contract is - we're not going to do a ton to help you but we're not going to get in your way. That's not 100% true of the state but there's that strand in the state."


9. Texans are normal people.
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The state likes to proclaim itself as an unpretentious, down-to-earth place where people are easy to get along with.

As John Steinbeck wrote: "Texas has a tight cohesiveness perhaps stronger than any other section of America."

And for people with conservative values, it could be a natural home, although demographic shifts have prompted speculation it will be a Democratic state in the future.

People dream about moving to California, but they don't dream about moving to Texas, says Grieder, yet many of those reluctant to move there end up liking it.


10. And they're not going anywhere..
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All this doesn't just bring in new arrivals - native Texans aren't leaving the state either. It is the "stickiest" state in the country, according to the latest figures from the Pew Research Center, which suggest that more than three-quarters of adults born in Texas still live there. Alaska is the least sticky.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5648 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:16 am to
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the really sad part is that we can only even offer incentives to industries that are medium/low skilled work. look at IBM in BR. it can't hire enough people b/c there aren't enough educated/skilled workers in the area to fill the jobs


Let’s take the extreme opposite outcome with NYC. There are a lot of similarities to LA. Deep political issues (City vs NY/NJ), crumbling infrastructure, wasteful spending, crazy high regulations, underperforming public schools, etc. Google isn’t expanding its presence (billions of real estate purschases) in NYC and Amazon building HQ2 in NYC because of ease/cost of entry. It’s because they can move to NYC and recruit whomever they want and fill every position with ease.

I completely get that living in a congested city isn’t for everyone. However, big business needs the population to maintain a proper workforce.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48665 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:19 am to
Louisiana will never compare favorably with large states like Texas. We should however strive to be competitive with states similar in size/population like Arkansas, Alabama or South Carolina.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15180 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:22 am to
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Uneducated population voting in the same corrupt lawmakers because they are Republicans. Lawmakers use religion and fear to control the uneducated.


Explain EBR then? Run by Democrats and has been for years.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:24 am to
One simple ratio known as the “tax burden” helps cut through the confusion. Not to be confused with tax rates, which vary widely based on an individual’s particular circumstances, tax burden measures the exact proportion of total personal income that residents pay toward state and local taxes. And it isn’t uniform across the U.S., either.

To determine which states’ residents bear the biggest tax burdens,analysts compared the 50 states across the three tax types that make up state tax burden — property taxes, individual income taxes, and sales and excise taxes — as a percentage of total personal income in the state.

New York is ranked #1 as expected
Louisiana is ranked #29
Texas is ranked #34

In 2012 Louisiana was ranked #45, this goes to show you how much residents have been taxed in 5 years to make up for the budget cuts.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:24 am to
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We don't take advantage of our natural resources, but give them away. Wake up people.




please define these "natural resources"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261152 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:25 am to
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Uneducated population voting in the same corrupt lawmakers because they are Republicans. Lawmakers use religion and fear to control the uneducated.


I can tell you know nothing about Louisiana.

Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1827 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:28 am to
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All you have to do is go to Walmart at 11 am on a workday to see the problem. 1/2 the store will be packed with "people" still in their pajamas indicating that they don't work, try to work or ever expect to work.


If the entire population was working at 11am, you'd have nowhere to go eat dinner, enjoy a movie or other nightlife. If your child got sick at midnight, sucks - the hospital is closed.

This is such a dumb argument. The 9-5 shift is more obsolete than it's ever been. This may have been an indicator before the internet but that's not how the workforce is now.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:31 am
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