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re: Why is there such a thing as white flight if no one is racist?

Posted on 6/25/15 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Why is there such a thing as white flight if no one is racist?

No one admits to being racist and its frowned upon, but yet why is there private schools when there are public schools kids can attend for free? And why is there not people moving into the hood and building nice houses on cheaper land instead of gated communities?


This is quite a fail in logic on your part.

People go to private schools instead of public schools in most cases because the education is better.

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why is there not people moving into the hood and building nice houses on cheaper land instead of gated communities?


Inner city neighborhoods are generally higher in crime and have less space than suburbs. People generally prefer to live where there is less crime and more space.

None of this is proof of racism.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:00 pm to
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No one admits to being racist and its frowned upon, but yet why is there private schools when there are public schools kids can attend for free? And why is there not people moving into the hood and building nice houses on cheaper land instead of gated communities?



Instead of sending kids to private schools, some municipalities up here have limited multi family dwellings, and jacked up property taxes, pricing out those who can't afford to live there. No need for white flight, especially when the resulting school districts are near the top of the nation.
Posted by mkibod1
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:01 pm to
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If you're looking at it from a pure economical angle, then buying a lot in the ghetto for 10,000 then building a house makes a lot more sense than spending 100,000 on a lot in a gated community then building that same house.


You clearly failed economics if that is your take away. Here is some beginners logic... A home is considered an asset, and people desire assets that can either appreciate (most ideal) or at least maintain their value. The value of that 100,000 home in a nice part of town will likely maintain or gain in value over time, while that 10,000 home in the ghetto will likely lose value or maintain its original value at best. Homes in rough areas have lower resale values, as well as have a tougher time selling, and thus are not intelligent financial investments.

ETA: Even if you look at initial costs, that 90,000 in "savings" in choosing to live in the ghetto versus the nicer home will do me no good if I get killed in said ghetto.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:02 pm to
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property value
is inherently racist
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:03 pm to
OP
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:03 pm to
Maybe the term "white fight" isn't totally accurate. It may have been a thing at one time and I'm not saying it doesn't happen today, but there are a lot of blacks with ability to do so who also choose to move to more affluent areas. People in general prefer to live in areas that refect their socio-economic status.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:04 pm to
People don't want to live around trash if they can avoid it.

It's pretty simple.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:04 pm to
Exactly. Loses value because the buyers market will be reduced due to no one wanting to live in a predominantly black area. But yet no one is racist.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

No one admits to being racist and its frowned upon, but yet why is there private schools when there are public schools kids can attend for free? And why is there not people moving into the hood and building nice houses on cheaper land instead of gated communities?



What you meant to write was:

quote:

No one admits to being racist and it's frowned upon, but why are there private schools when there are public schools kids can attend for free? And why are there not people moving into the hood and building nice houses on cheaper land instead of gated communities?


This is why no one wants to go to your public school or live near you.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
Oh there's racism all right, but you don't need white racism to get white flight. Black racism will do it too.

Or would you choose to live in a place where the people didn't want you?

I see a lot more black people living in predominantly white neighborhoods than the opposite. You want to explain that using white racism?
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
you really should just quit this thread and start over

I like a good troll thread, but this is just embarrassing
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
I truly do understand economics. I realize now there are a lot of hypocrites on this board.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:11 pm to
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I realize now there are a lot of hypocrites on this board.

ground breaking
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:12 pm to
Loses value because said ghetto can endanger ones well being or even end their life. Why dont you ask the ghetto why they have to be so ghetto? I know quite a few guys who grew up in ghetto areas who have sworn to never return because they do not want their kids exposed to the shite there, and yes, they were black. And most home owners do not want to live by a trailer park the same way they dont want to live by a ghetto.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:12 pm to
It's not that I'm racist I just don't care for living near uneducated/lazy/poor people who don't mind living off welfare.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Exactly. Loses value because the buyers market will be reduced due to no one wanting to live in a predominantly black area. But yet no one is racist.


Why does it have to be just black areas? You don't see anyone trying to build a big house in the middle of the white trash trailer parks either. Trash is trash.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Loses value because the buyers market will be reduced due to no one wanting to live in a predominantly black area.


No, nobody wants to live in a sketchy area period. It does not matter about the color of its inhabitants. Any area that harbors crime and drugs, and has a high rate of shady dealings stemming from those two big issues will see anybody with any desire to better themselves leave or stay away.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8908 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Exactly. Loses value because the buyers market will be reduced due to no one wanting to live in a predominantly black area. But yet no one is racist.


Look dude everywhere you put the word black; Replace that with uneducated/lazy/poor/welfare and you have the real answer.

I love black people! Show me the money!
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29308 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:20 pm to
it is the responsibility of the more fortunate to move into these areas and use their money to improve these areas and increase value for the ones not as fortunate that live in these areas.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:21 pm to
Let me introduce myself

I'm yellowfin and I'm racist
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