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re: Why is drinking and driving so accepted?

Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Doesn't make it any less dangerous.


Depending on the BAC, it's probably far more dangerous to be playing on a cell phone.

So why isn't it prosecuted like driving while impaired?

I guess MADD hasn't put their emotional latch onto distracted driving?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141194 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Which is why I alluded to you wanting prohibition.


Drink all you want, just not while driving. I've said that before in this thread.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141194 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Depending on the BAC, it's probably far more dangerous to be playing on a cell phone.

So why isn't it prosecuted like driving while impaired?


It should be prosecuted more, and have stiffer penalties.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
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what else would they be for?
Sneaking into places. Why would a mini be for drinking and driving?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
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If it's irrational to not want my family to be the road with impaired drivers, then, yes, you are right.


You just justified prohibition.

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Why is it so important to drink and drive? If you ever have a family member injured or killed by someone who was impaired or distracted you will understand.


So you want to reduce "impaired" (I use that term loosely) from driving home. Why not seek out better public transit? Or better placement of bars/taverns that is walkable from residences?

That would totally kill MADD's budget, and put a dent in the DWI racket though, so I doubt that you'll see it floated.

Sometimes I have hope BR will do this then I remember they outlawed happy hour to "save lives" .
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104468 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Sometimes I have hope BR will do this then I remember they outlawed happy hour to "save lives"


There are still happy hour deals all over town.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71840 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 12:57 pm to
Yea, I looked for that stat, but it is probably impossible to find for the impaired driving. In 2010 (again, just because that was the year I could find multiple stats), the rate of fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled was 1.11. The only thing they have for impaired driving is the same figure against all VMT, not just impaired VMT, which doesn't get us to the figure we're looking for.

Another figure that at least points to an even less likelihood that an innocent person is killed by a drunk driver is that 65% of alcohol involved traffic fatalities were the drunk driver themselves. It doesn't reduce the "Deadly" aspect, but it does reduce the "Deadly for others" aspect.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141194 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:00 pm to
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So you want to reduce "impaired" (I use that term loosely) from driving home.


Not reduce, stop. I don't want myself or my family on the road with any impaired drivers.

quote:

Why not seek out better public transit?


There is plenty in most cities. If not, there are taxi's/Uber/friends.

I'm out of this thread. It's obvious people want to justify their desire to drink/text/be distracted and drive. It just baffles and saddens me.

I hope none of you suffer loss because of impaired/distracted drivers. It's truly heartbreaking for those of us who have.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't want myself or my family on the road with any impaired drivers.


with all the prescription drugs, illegal drugs, and alcohol this will never happen
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104468 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't want myself or my family on the road with any impaired drivers.


There is only one way to do that. Stay off the road entirely.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:03 pm to
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with all the prescription drugs, illegal drugs, and alcohol this will never happen


I'd wager smartphones are more dangerous than all of these
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64571 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Not reduce, stop. I don't want myself or my family on the road with any impaired drivers.


Oh, that's what you're talking about. OK. While we're at it, I'd like world peace and the end of hunger.

Now, with that out of the way, let's have an adult discussion relating to increased traffic safety, efficacious law enforcement and freedom from overbearing regulations and unwarranted government intervention. It won't be easy, because these are matters that are often at odds with one another, but the conversation is important.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94715 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:06 pm to
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I don't want myself or my family on the road with any impaired drivers.


there's no guarantee that person hurtling at you at 70mph on a two lane road isn't having suicidal thoughts and decide to meet you head-on at the last minute.

you put yourself in danger by getting in a car and assuming those faceless strangers you pass arent crazy/drunk/stoned/etc
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:07 pm to
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I'd wager smartphones are more dangerous than all of these


I agree
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:10 pm to
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There are still happy hour deals all over town.


LINK

It was the dark days of being an LSU student.

Eta better link

quote:



The East Baton Rouge Metro Council unanimously passed the long-disputed ordinance Wednesday that will ban drink specials after 10 p.m.

The council voted 10-0 to pass the ordinance with four amendments.

The amendments moved the time the ban begins from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m., excluded casinos, omitted the first paragraph in order to exclude restaurants and allowed bars to sell drinks up to 60 percent off the retail price.

The ordinance, which is supported by the Campus Community Coalition for Change, also bans bars from offering free drinks, holding games involving alcohol or advertising alcohol-related promotions.

The ordinance will go into effect when Mayor-President Kip Holden signs it.

Nancy Mathews, CCCC director, said her only comment on the outcome is that she is pleased.

Mathews and two members of Mothers Against Drunk Driving spoke to the council about why they think the ordinance is necessary.


This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104468 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:29 pm to
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The East Baton Rouge Metro Council unanimously passed the long-disputed ordinance Wednesday that will ban drink specials after 10 p.m.


Ah... I do remember that.

Bars all over town still hold late-night happy hours. They obviously don't really care about this ordinance.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:48 pm to
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I mean who really buys an iced down 16 or 24oz beer if there is no plan to crack it open as soon as they get back in the car.


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216684 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Also the small amount of DUIs written. Let's face it, if the law really wanted to crack down on drunk driving they could write 100s of these a night


This is true, And how about setting up checkpoints after every LSU game... They don't have enough jail space....
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:52 pm to
I saw this title & then saw PJ was the last person to post in it.. What up PJ?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108737 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:53 pm to
They really should
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