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TxTiger82
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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Maybe for entry level jobs or Wall Street. I agree that a Harvard or MIT degree will be an advantage.


First, you make a fair point. Work experience is more important after a certain amount of time.

But second, it isn't all about hiring/ placement. It is also about research productivity and grant dollars. It would be easy to underestimate how much that brings into the economy. There is a reason why places like Ann Arbor and Austin are booming. LSU needs to try to compete with those schools for the money.





Golfer
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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There is a reason why places like Ann Arbor and Austin are booming.


Agreed. But a mediocre GPA in a liberal arts program at UT-Austin or Michigan isn't going to serve you well just because they have great tech transfer that's housed largely in the STEM and Business schools.


fallguy_1978
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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But second, it isn't all about hiring/ placement. It is also about research productivity and grant dollars. It would be easy to underestimate how much that brings into the economy. There is a reason why places like Ann Arbor and Austin are booming. LSU needs to try to compete with those schools for the money.

I've honestly found that most employers I've worked for care far more about your work history than where you may have gotten your degree from. I'd imagine there are still some degrees that turn heads but every year that you get away from college it matters less imo.

LSU certainly has a myriad of issues. It's still on par with most of the SEC schools outside of the top 4 or 5.


TxTiger82
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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Agreed. But a mediocre GPA in a liberal arts program at UT-Austin or Michigan isn't going to serve you well just because they have great tech transfer that's housed largely in the STEM and Business schools.


True. But shifting the conversation back to Alexander, it should be part of his role to grow LSU's research awards. I am not sure if he has done this or not, and I'm not sure how much grants are reflected in the USNWR rankings. But I do feel strongly that the BoS should consider this criterion in evaluating Alexander's performance, as it is an important for economic development -- one of the primary reasons land grant colleges exist in the first place.

I think we probably see eye to eye on most of this.


fallguy_1978
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
He's been a bad fund raiser too. He's certainly not the right leader for LSU imo. I'll be glad when he's gone.


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Golfer
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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But shifting the conversation back to Alexander, it should be part of his role to grow LSU's research awards. I am not sure if he has done this or not, and I'm not sure how much grants are reflected in the USNWR rankings. But I do feel strongly that the BoS should consider this criterion in evaluating Alexander's performance, as it is an important for economic development -- one of the primary reasons land grant colleges exist in the first place.

I think we probably see eye to eye on most of this.


Spot on. The Universities that will be successful moving forward will thrive off public-private initiatives via research and workforce development.




gillian
Member since May 2017
85 posts

re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
Look, FKA was a terrible choice to lead LSU from the start. He had no clue about how to run a major research university with a strong athletic program, and it shows on a regular basis. Of course LSU has faced major budgetary constraints during his tenure, but even in that context his instincts have been wrong the vast majority of the time, and LSU has suffered as a result. LSU has faced controversy after controversy stemming from mismanagement under his watch, in part because he has been insufficiently engaged in oversight of the work of the university.

When FKA imposes his will, he is almost always wrong. One case in point: LSU is undergoing a transformation that has drawn little attention but which threatens the flagship status of the university. The administration at LSU is trying to turn the university into an online university, with the result that the academic experiences of students on the residential campus and the research mission of the university will be diminished considerably. LSU hired a person from the University of Southern New Hampshire who has little experience with a university like LSU; she has been charged with transforming the university into an online university, and this is guaranteed to diminish the academic quality of the university. The efforts to transform LSU into a Southern New Hampshire-type university has occurred under the direction of FKA, who does not have a clue about how to run a flagship university with a major research mission. Adding some online courses is one thing; transforming LSU into a university with a heavy online presence (while diminishing the residential educational experience and the research mission of the university) is another.

I agree that new leadership is desperately needed.


hawkster
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
He still spends shitloads of money. That is the measure of success in higher education


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chauncey1
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Member since May 2010
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
LSU has no acceptable reason it can't be on par with a Georgia, Florida or any other state school. UGA and UF compete with GA Tech and FL State for state funds and should be at a competitive disadvantage. LSU is the clear flagship school for the state. It will take time to turn around the LSU brand, but it is possible with the right vision and leadership.

If we accept mediocrity, it enables bad leadership. FKing is not the answer. He follows the university "pack" a decade late. LSU needs a transformative leader that can change the culture and differentiate the school.

LSU is a state school, and its job is to educate its residents with an intent to improve the state. Unfortunately, the state does not foster job opportunities, and top tier talent often leaves for better job prospects. Louisiana needs to foster innovation and an entrepreneurial business environment to improve itself. State leadership contributes to university woes.

FKING needs to go.


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chauncey1
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
I agree with gillian.
The right transformation is essential. Universities are not the gatekeepers of information like they were in the past. Everything you study can be found in a library or on google. The school organizes the relevant learning and provides the student with a peice of parchment that says they can learn. The university model will need to evolve to remain relevant. In my opinion, an online format is a strategy for failure. It leads down a road with low entry barriers with differentiation on cost and user experience.

LSU needs a leader that understands that engagement in the university, fostering strong ties to alumni, and developing an experiential environment along with excellent academics is vital to the growth of the university. Providing opportunities and facilities for innovative research should be a priority. Instead, the university leadership targets fraternities, removes alumni scholarships for out-of-state students, and has a professor making social media posts about dust-busting their office.


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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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Anyone that bases their decision on where to attend college based on the US News rankings shouldn't be in college. The bulk of the weight of those rankings is a combination of a beauty pageant or easily manipulated data to get a higher ranking.



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SlapahoeTribe
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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It’s not about academics or athletics, it’s about being a social justice warrior.

Ding. Ding. Ding.

We have a winner.


Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
I came to this thread hoping to find the real answer to the question. He has sent LSU on a downward spiral, yet is still there, and just as arrogant as ever.

Why has he not been shown the door?


Bullfrog
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but I left before halftime.
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
Because he parties like a native and the the people who have a say in things, like him.


jimmy the leg
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Member since Aug 2007
6255 posts

re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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the the people who have a say in things


I read this as "the people who make frick loads of money off of consulting jobs (paid for by the tax payer)" really like him. We are still a banana boat republic imo. As such, corruption seems to be a major factor. The whole SJW aspect is just an added bonus for those concened with national "optics."

In short, he sucks, but he isn't going anywhere imho.


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idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
LSU thriving according to F King Alexander

Did you see his op ed letter on Monday?


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Ralph_Wiggum
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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Georgia, Florida


UGA is not a public ivy.


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Ralph_Wiggum
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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LSU certainly has a myriad of issues. It's still on par with most of the SEC schools outside of the top 4 or 5.


The problem is that LSU should be top 5. We don't share the state like AL, MS, and SC with another public competitor schools.

What is sad is that back in the 1930s and 40s LSU was considered on par with UNC and Texas for public schools in the South.


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SeeeeK
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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It’s not about academics or athletics, it’s about being a social justice warrior.


LSJWU



Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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re: Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?
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Why hasn’t F King been fired yet?



Because as bad as certain situations played out publically, it is difficult to fire someone who has seen the university reach record numbers in enrollment not to mention this year's incoming class has the highest avg ACT and HS GPA scores in school history

The reason LSU dropped in most rankings is because their grading scale includes % state funding which has fallen off a cliff over the last decade



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