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re: Why don't kids with severe allergies go to special schools?
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:47 pm to windshieldman
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:47 pm to windshieldman
I think they should eat separately at the least.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:48 pm to Napoleon
Pre Katrina Slidell wasn’t bad. Can’t say that now. Certain elements have caused a rapid decline. I don’t care what you say though, those Scuttlebutt girls are just trying to make ends meet.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:52 pm to No8Easy2
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Agreed, not wasting time on it but
my son has just learned to deal with it
At school it doesn’t affect anybody else’s lunch
they still serve peanut butter and jelly sandwiches when they do he just gets a ham one, it’s not the end of the world.
Epic pen is at school and the nurse is aware
What’s really been the hard part is learning that there’s so many things that are processed in plants that also use peanuts
Lil Debbie, Zapps list goes on and on.
I think my older one in high school it's ok to bring pb, but mine in elementary can't. Never been a big deal either way, they eat pb sandwiches or crackers when they get home from school. We just send them with turkey or ham sandwiches and some chips while at school.
Yeah, my nephew I remember it being a big deal on what he ate and how hard it can be to avoid it, like you said as far as Lil Debbie, Zapps, etc. At his school they had to have a doctor sign off and school nurse kept his epi pen while he also kept one on himself.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:54 pm to Captain Crackysack
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Well if your daughter can "self police" her allergy than why did schools have to all out ban peanut products? That's the ridiculous part. The burden should be on the kid with the allergy to avoid peanuts
That's how I remember it. The kid knew what to eat and what not to eat and what questions to ask before he ate something. If he did get hit, the school nurse had his Epipen in the medical office. That was it. If the kid got sick, it was the kid's own fault, but the school was prepared to step in with medical care in that event.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:55 pm to windshieldman
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I’d like to watch this, what was the name of it? On YouTube or Netflix?
I can't recall exactly. I thought it might have been an episode of Vice but I couldn't find it. I recommended it to someone else a few months ago. I'll try to remember.
Here's some related info I found while trying to find the doc on the interwebs.
How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Peanut
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Two publications in The New England Journal of Medicine from this year present compelling evidence for the prevention of peanut allergy.
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The first study follows groundbreaking research from last year, which concluded that children exposed early and consistently to peanuts were significantly less likely to develop allergy symptoms.
"The take-home message from that is exposure early in life seems to induce a tolerant [state] that prevents the development of food allergy."
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Similarly, another study took on the World Health Organization's recommendation that babies should only be breast-fed for the first six months of life. Its results show that that the introduction of peanuts and eggs in infants less than six months of age "was associated with a significantly lower prevalence of these respective food allergies."
Both cases work against the narrative that allergens should be avoided by infants
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:59 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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That's how I remember it. The kid knew what to eat and what not to eat and what questions to ask before he ate something. If he did get hit, the school nurse had his Epipen in the medical office. That was it. If the kid got sick, it was the kid's own fault, but the school was prepared to step in with medical care in that event.
Epi pen doesn't always work, and if it does, it's only good for a few minutes. Especially if it's a severe allergic reaction.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 12:59 pm to NfamousPanda
quote:I'm sorry to say this, but in Pecker's America we would have to let nature take its course with you.
As a person with severe allergies (peanuts) and has a kid with severe allergies (eggs, dairy, peanuts), I can attest that trying to avoid these things is near to impossible. I've had to be air lifted to a hospital due to nearly dying from some chicken at a Chinese restaurant. You cant expect a small child to always know whats in their food. I appreciate schools that put these restrictions in place because I guarantee you it'll save a kids life. Now I dont expect schools to ban things like dairy and eggs because that stuff is in just about everything. But peanuts is an easy thing to ban. And why is it a big deal if your kid cant have peanuts at school?
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:01 pm to No8Easy2
No. You aren't dealing with it. His school hasn't changed the diets of other kids to suit your's yet.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:04 pm to Pecker
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I can't recall exactly. I thought it might have been an episode of Vice but I couldn't find it. I recommended it to someone else a few months ago. I'll try to remember.
Here's some related info I found while trying to find it on the interwebs.
Yeah I found an episode called Rotten that has to due with food allergies. Maybe that was it? I'll check it out. As far as the other stuff, interesting read. Things that cause allergic reactions interest me since some people may not even have issues till they are adults.
I said earlier on first page I worked a death due to shrimp. The man had eaten shrimp most of his life, he was in his 50s, literally ate some boiled shrimp that he boiled, according to wife he boiled it all the time, broke out in hives. He quit eating the shrimp and took a Benadryl, about 10 minutes later he was wheezing and his wife called 911. By the time we got there a few minutes later he was unresponsive and trachea swollen shut, we ended up having to do a cricothyrotomy on him, didn't make it. And my nephew started young eating pb (5-6 months old), but developed an allergy to it a few years later. Can be pretty scary
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:04 pm to Napoleon
Another point in this scenario is for litigious reasons. Regardless of any legal outcome, lawsuits will arise if a kid dies on a campus.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:05 pm to windshieldman
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Epi pen doesn't always work, and if it does, it's only good for a few minutes. Especially if it's a severe allergic reaction.
Nothing's 100%. All the more reason to carefully self-police. The rest of the world doesn't stop because you might die if you look the wrong way at a common foodstuff.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:06 pm to Spasweezy
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Another point in this scenario is for litigious reasons. Regardless of any legal outcome, lawsuits will arise if a kid dies on a campus.
That right there is the truth. Schools and administrators are so fricking afraid of a lawsuit that common sense often takes a back seat to draconian restrictions implemented in an attempt to avoid anything that could possibly be sued over. Such is the world we live in these days.
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:06 pm to Pecker
quote:bullshite. The motherfrickers told parent not to expose their kids to certain foods like peanuts until they were older.
A lot of doctors are starting to believe that parents are being overprotective and not exposing their children to enough foods and bacteria at an early enough age.
quote:Unless you're a bubble boy, nobody lives in a sterile environment. Everytime you touch a doorknob, someone's poop or snot gets on your fingers.
They live in sterile environments
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:11 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Nothing's 100%. All the more reason to carefully self-police
If it's anaphylaxis, it's a very low percentage chance an epi pen is going to help someone long. Most high schools and junior highs allow peanut butter, it's the elementary schools that for the most part are banning them, most 4-5 year olds don't police themselves with that well. Young kids may not wash their hands off from pb and rub them accidentally or intentionally on another kid who is allergic to it.
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The rest of the world doesn't stop because you might die if you look the wrong way at a common foodstuff.
I nor my kids are allergic to it. And apparently the rest of the world does stop, at least in those elementary schools banning it, deal with it.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:13 pm to fr33manator
quote:I live what many would call a posh lifestyle, but you'd be surprised to know that I spent my childhood years as something of an outdoorsman. I'm quite versatile, and perfectly comfortable in the wilderness.
Well pecker is a little bitch. He wouldn’t last a Day in the wilderness
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:16 pm to Pecker
You probably live in the outskirts of Sevierville and shite in a bucket.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:17 pm to windshieldman
quote:I believe that was it. It's pretty good. There's an Indian pediatrician (appeared very intelligent) who, as gracefully as possible, blamed parents for being overprotective.
Yeah I found an episode called Rotten that has to due with food allergies.
quote:Yeah, there's a hereditary component that you can't avoid, but that isn't a logical explanation for the "epidemic" of childhood food allergies.
By the time we got there a few minutes later he was unresponsive and trachea swollen shut, we ended up having to do a cricothyrotomy on him, didn't make it. And my nephew started young eating pb (5-6 months old), but developed an allergy to it a few years later. Can be pretty scary
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:25 pm to Napoleon
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No. You aren't dealing with it. His school hasn't changed the diets of other kids to suit your's yet.
No not at all, they still serve pb&j about twice a month
We get the lunch calendar and just let him decide if he wants to bring something up that day or have them make a sandwich that’s about the only thing different they do for him
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:33 pm to Napoleon
quote:It must be really tough for those poor souls that cant have a peanut snack for those 7 hours they are at school
Sorry your little girl has health issues. Others shouldn't be impacted though.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:34 pm to Pecker
quote:What did Dr. Indian say for parents who introduced their children at a young age and they still got the allegy?
I believe that was it. It's pretty good. There's an Indian pediatrician (appeared very intelligent) who, as gracefully as possible, blamed parents for being overprotective.
In some cases, parents introduced young (around 3-4 months) and the child died.....
My wife is an RN who used to be in allergy and immunology
So I cant wait for Peckers response
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