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re: Why do you have(traditionally) to give a two weeks notice, but your company can
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:36 pm to Rouge
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:36 pm to Rouge
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typically give notice so that you don't burn bridges if potential future employers contact your past employers
This is it, it is just a curtesy thing. I had an employee give me a two week notice and proceeding to spend the next week throwing hissy fits and bad mouthing me to other employees and then just finally quit when the other guys told him to just frick off.
Two week notices are a double edged sword, when you turn one in most blue collar jobs tell you to just pack your shite for safety issues. A company that is near me had a guy turn in a two week and they were going to let him work it out. He claimed he hurt his back while driving a truck and sued them. He turned down a 50k settlement and ended up getting 100 to 150k from them and they no longer let guys work out their two week.
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:43 pm to Hester Carries
That's an awful response. People perform tasks that they get paid for at the amount that was set forth in the terms of their employment. My company isn't doing me any favors lol. I go to work everyday and do the job that is required of me to do, that I agreed to do, and almost 9 times out of 10 there is a greater benefit in what I'm doing on the company's end of the spectrum, not my end.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:44 pm to iamAG
Because they're a company and you're an employee.
It's the same reason they can profit off of you and everyone else's work, but you cannot.
If you don't like it, go start your own company.
It's the same reason they can profit off of you and everyone else's work, but you cannot.
If you don't like it, go start your own company.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:53 pm to Breesus
You never HAD to give two weeks. It's just that walking off the job has consequences. Your old company will remember that you just quit and left them in a lurch, so you won't have them as an option in the future. Plus word might get around and other prospective employers might be less willing to trust you.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:58 pm to Breesus
Another terrible response from some mindless zoid who is most likely sucking on the teet of upper management. I would certainly hope that a company profits off the work of their employees. Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a company now would it? As an employee I also rake in profits, which is why I get paid twice per month, have stock options, and a matching 401(k) plan. Sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me Gizmo.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 7:02 pm to iamAG
Don't ask questions hand
Posted on 9/15/15 at 7:05 pm to Warfarer
I agree. Never belittle the man or woman who signs your checks. Show respect and as mentioned, never burn any bridges.
Your history follows you in employment opportunities. When you are respectful to the company , a future company will honor that loyalty. Be the bigger man even if you hate your current situation. Two weeks is no time. Bite the bullet and never bad mouth your former employers in social media.
Burning bridges with family or employers is never a good idea. We all need support in this world. Being young lends itself to outbursts and selfishness at times. One day you might need good ole mom or dad.
Your history follows you in employment opportunities. When you are respectful to the company , a future company will honor that loyalty. Be the bigger man even if you hate your current situation. Two weeks is no time. Bite the bullet and never bad mouth your former employers in social media.
Burning bridges with family or employers is never a good idea. We all need support in this world. Being young lends itself to outbursts and selfishness at times. One day you might need good ole mom or dad.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 7:07 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Your old company will remember that you just quit and left them in a lurch, so you won't have them as an option in the future
Saw it first hand. Coworker was in charge of a team on a big project. In the middle of it he surprises everyone with a three day notice and tells us that (our competitor) needed him asap and he had no choice. Move forward ten years, totally new management team in place, very few remember him and he asks me to check and see if he might be able to come back. I check with HR and in his file is his termination form with 'no rehire' noted. Some things don't always go away easily.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:07 pm to Rouge
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by Rouge
typically give notice so that you don't burn bridges if potential future employers contact your past employers
Personally, I couldn't give two shits what the opinion of a former employer was of a perspective employee unless said employee asked me to call them.
I mean they left or are leaving the position, so either there was some conflict, lack of pay, etc that lead to that separation. So why would I want to opinion of some jaded a-hole?
Industry references are much more important. The relationships you build with those you do business with are a direct reflection of how you handle your business.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:12 pm to SlackMaster
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Giving two weeks' notice is a sign of good faith as it gives the company time to adjust with an interim plan. Likewise, most companies will usually pay severance for good employees who are let go for reasons not their fault, in a similar sign of good faith.
Both can terminate the employment immediately though of course it reflects badly on the one who does this (assuming the employee is doing what is asked of him/her).
Most industries are smaller than you think. No use on needlessly pissing off someone that you may be dealing with later
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:23 pm to iamAG
For companies that frick over their workers with frequent firings for trivial reasons, I have no problem when an employee frocks them back by quitting with little if any notice. With those companies who have such a rep, I like to see the same done to them.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I've been at my current job six years, and I could walk into work tomorrow morning and be told I was through.
As far as I'm concerned, my employer and I settle up every Friday.
As far as I'm concerned, my employer and I settle up every Friday.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:49 pm to Maverick01
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That's an awful response. People perform tasks that they get paid for at the amount that was set forth in the terms of their employment. My company isn't doing me any favors lol. I go to work everyday and do the job that is required of me to do, that I agreed to do, and almost 9 times out of 10 there is a greater benefit in what I'm doing on the company's end of the spectrum, not my end.
No you just dont understand the point of my post.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:52 pm to iamAG
In some cases it's best to give several months notice if possible
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:25 pm to iamAG
You should always give at least two weeks notice when you intend to quit a job. Period.
Yes, they may be a bunch of assholes. Yes, you may have something else lined up. Yes, you may be undervalued. But it's what men do.
And the best companies will thank you for your written notice then escort you to collect your personal belongings and see you off the property.
Because it's only in rare cases that the separation is totally benign. Perhaps retiring at an old age or moving across the country for family reasons.
Most people serving out a 2 week notice are not into it and want to gtfo to their new commitment. And even if they don't verbalize it, they send a message that the remaining staff are idiots for staying. That the company doesn't have their best interests at heart and they are all fools to stay.
Otherwise they would be leaving for a better place. Just like you.
But that two week notice, even if the company escorts you to your car, shows future employers and yourself, that you are not scared to handle yourself properly.
That's the kind of people you want to work around. The kind of role model you want your kids to see. And what high quality people do.
Now go be that kind of person. It's your choice to put on the blinders and soar with the Eagles or back up and crawl out of every tough situation never even realizing you even had the chance to soar.
Yes, they may be a bunch of assholes. Yes, you may have something else lined up. Yes, you may be undervalued. But it's what men do.
And the best companies will thank you for your written notice then escort you to collect your personal belongings and see you off the property.
Because it's only in rare cases that the separation is totally benign. Perhaps retiring at an old age or moving across the country for family reasons.
Most people serving out a 2 week notice are not into it and want to gtfo to their new commitment. And even if they don't verbalize it, they send a message that the remaining staff are idiots for staying. That the company doesn't have their best interests at heart and they are all fools to stay.
Otherwise they would be leaving for a better place. Just like you.
But that two week notice, even if the company escorts you to your car, shows future employers and yourself, that you are not scared to handle yourself properly.
That's the kind of people you want to work around. The kind of role model you want your kids to see. And what high quality people do.
Now go be that kind of person. It's your choice to put on the blinders and soar with the Eagles or back up and crawl out of every tough situation never even realizing you even had the chance to soar.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:46 pm to iamAG
It depends what you do.
In my field there's no way I would consider leaving without training a replacement. It would be very tough for someone to fall into my projects and take them over and run them.
Likewise I fully suspect that my company would give me a fair severance package if they had to let me go. I'm not worried about being fired for poor performance. I feel like a perform above my pay grade and I feel like my employer knows that I do.
Never, ever, EVER burn a bridge unless the whole world already knows it's a shitty bridge.
In my field there's no way I would consider leaving without training a replacement. It would be very tough for someone to fall into my projects and take them over and run them.
Likewise I fully suspect that my company would give me a fair severance package if they had to let me go. I'm not worried about being fired for poor performance. I feel like a perform above my pay grade and I feel like my employer knows that I do.
Never, ever, EVER burn a bridge unless the whole world already knows it's a shitty bridge.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:48 pm to iamAG
Problem now is you get fired immediately if you give a two weeks notice.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:54 pm to prplhze2000
I worked for a company that sent a few people to the gate the minute they put in their two weeks.
When I put mine in I was there for 3 more weeks training a new guy and working my arse off till the last minute.
I'm a firm believer that nobody worth working for is going to send you to the gate the day you put in your notice unless you were not worth keeping to begin with.
When I put mine in I was there for 3 more weeks training a new guy and working my arse off till the last minute.
I'm a firm believer that nobody worth working for is going to send you to the gate the day you put in your notice unless you were not worth keeping to begin with.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
If you put in your two weeks, then the company ask you/tells you not to come back. Do they have to pay you for the two weeks or do they do so out of good faith? Is it law that if a two week notice is made and they fire you, the money from.those two weeks must be paid?
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:04 pm to iamAG
No. They can tell you to get fricked and have the police escort you out and mail you your personal shite and not pay your for a minute past the time you said you were done.
You don't have to work for them, they don't have to employ you (unless you're a protected minority or they're scared of a wrongful termination suit, but we won't go there)
When you work hard for good people and maintain a good relationship with them, both parties try to do right.
When your employer sucks and you have a legitimate reason to just leave, do it.
You don't have to work for them, they don't have to employ you (unless you're a protected minority or they're scared of a wrongful termination suit, but we won't go there)
When you work hard for good people and maintain a good relationship with them, both parties try to do right.
When your employer sucks and you have a legitimate reason to just leave, do it.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:08 pm
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