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re: Why do white men even go to schools like Harvard anymore?

Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:22 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:22 am to
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Louisiana refused to submit a plan for desegregation in 1974, and was sued for that.
50 years later and the democrats are still just as racist as they were then
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1040 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:28 am to
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Have you ever interacted with one single person that went to Harvard or is this just what you heard on One News Network or whatever it’s called?


I sure have smart arse. Worked for a project manager at Google who was a physics undergrad at Harvard. I have a brother in law that is a PhD in material science from MIT. I have worked as a Mechanical engineer in the oil and gas industry for over 25 years and have worked with engineers and scientist from bs degree to PhD level. I have had professors in school that were Ivy grads from Brown, MIT, Cornell and Datmouth. In the technical disciplines the Ivies are fine but overpriced. For the social sciences and culture studies they are pure crap for the most part. Unfortunately the administration of Harvard and other institutions is controlled by a leftist core.
Do you bother to watch congressional committee hearings when the president's are questioned about the actions or inactions of their institutions? Do you read any of the papers or opinions expressed by these folks or are you a useful idiot to prop up these idealogues?
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
6524 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:31 am to
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When I read this I bet myself the author went to a decent school but one not on Harvard’s level and probably had some jealousy. 3 clicks to his LinkedIn and….

Yea…. I was correct.



This isn't nearly the flex you think it is because every university besides Harvard itself ranks behind Harvard. You were really just saying "I bet author didn't make it into Harvard". There's a 99.9% probability that a random human didn't go to Harvard. So akin to saying Bama will beat Tennessee Tech in football... and I was right. Okayy.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 9:32 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69725 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:32 am to
hell of a shiny hook baw. you managed to reel in quite a haul of OT Moderates in this one.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
5131 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:32 am to
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I have had professors in school that were Ivy grads from Brown, MIT, Cornell and Datmouth.


Dey know what it do.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
1739 mi from the University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23803 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:39 am to
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17% of the American population are white men. Harvard's faculty is 32% white men. Seems white men are overrepresented, right? I mean, is the data wrong?

Yours is...

According to the 2020 census, 75.3%, or 249,581,308 people, were White alone.

So ~38% would be expected male
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8804 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:42 am to
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You’re saying white people make up ~34% of the population in the United States?


JFC. Why are several people in this thread so easily confused?


Men, Women, and Children are all counted in the total population. White MEN account for ~17% of that population.

ETA: White WOMEN are like 31% of total population
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:43 am to
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17% of the American population are white men. Harvard's faculty is 32% white men. Seems white men are overrepresented, right? I mean, is the data wrong?

Yes, the data accounts for all ages in one variable and only people over a certain age in another variable. Therefore the data is wrong.

But you’re a progressive, wouldn’t expect you to be intelligent enough to understand basic statistics or how to apply them.

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mmmmmbeeer

Oh, it’s the guy that dreams about his daughter getting creampied.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8804 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:45 am to
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the data accounts for all ages in one variable and only people over a certain age in another variable


False. This may surprise you, but the census actually asks people's ages! Incredibly sneaky, I know.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28516 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:46 am to
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Its almost as if none of you are aware of or can even acknowledge recent (12-18) news events regarding Harvard, Columbia, et al.


How many Ivy grads have you hired in the last 5 years?

How many recent Ivy grads do you work with currently?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75250 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:49 am to
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How many Ivy grads have you hired in the last 5 years?
Not in last 5 years, but three in the five years prior. They were reliable, good at their job, no problems, but didn't stand out.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34512 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:51 am to
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And you saw what I said earlier, I assume?



Do you not agree re recent news regarding Harvard leadership, and in particular, the way their leadership flexed to protect Gay?

I dont blame the grads for that, nor do I hold it against them.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:52 am to
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False.

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17% of the American population are white men.

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Men, Women, and Children are all counted in the total population. White MEN account for ~17% of that population.

Why are you comparing data that accounts for children to data that applies to adults only?

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This may surprise you, but the census actually asks people's ages! Incredibly sneaky, I know.

I’m very well aware. You are clearly oblivious to how that nullifies your 17% comparison.

You progressives really are an incredibly stupid bunch
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8804 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:57 am to
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Why are you comparing data that accounts for children to data that applies to adults only?



Then limit the census data to adults only...Harvard is still inline with white male representation proportional to the American adult population.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
23846 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:01 am to
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JFC. Why are several people in this thread so easily confused?


Men, Women, and Children are all counted in the total population. White MEN account for ~17% of that population.

Who cares about the TOTAL population for this? The adult population matters in this regard. Children are not eligible to be profs right? And among the adult population in the US, white men make up around 30% of it.

You know what you are doing with wording it like that.

Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
23846 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:02 am to
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Harvard is still inline with white male representation proportional to the American adult population.

So you can admit you were wrong? Because first you were saying white males were way overrepresented. The 17% number was stupid to bring up and you know it
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:05 am to
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Then limit the census data to adults only

If you actually cared about statistics and accurate comparisons you would limit the data to college educated people over 22 years old since that’s what would comprise the vast majority of Harvard faculty.

But you only care about spouting progressive stupidity, not accuracy.

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Harvard is still inline with white male representation proportional to the American adult population.


“17% of the American population are white men. Harvard's faculty is 32% white men. Seems white men are overrepresented, right? I mean, is the data wrong?”

You’ve already pivoted from overrepresented. And you and you’re fellow progressives on this thread were laughing at others for saying you were wrong.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:05 am to
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Then limit the census data to adults only

If you actually cared about statistics and accurate comparisons you would limit the data to college educated people over 22 years old since that’s what would comprise the vast majority of Harvard faculty.

But you only care about spouting progressive stupidity, not accuracy.

quote:

Harvard is still inline with white male representation proportional to the American adult population.


“17% of the American population are white men. Harvard's faculty is 32% white men. Seems white men are overrepresented, right? I mean, is the data wrong?”

You’ve already pivoted from overrepresented. And you and you’re fellow progressives on this thread were laughing at others for saying you were wrong.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38284 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:10 am to
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JFC. Why are several people in this thread so easily confused? Men, Women, and Children are all counted in the total population. White MEN account for ~17% of that population.


That only matters if there are fricking children on the faculty, you imbecile

You’re slicing the actual demographic to fit your narrative but not the faculty demographic as well
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11407 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:04 am to
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The only advantage Ivies have is the ingrained, cliquish networks of elite alumni.



But it is a hell of an advantage...especially when you ain't really competent and qualified.

Harvard has existed for 389 years. For 341 of those years they ONLY accepted male undergraduates. From 1870 to 1970 they accepted exactly 12 black male applicants per year so for 234 years, 60% of its existence, the only people who were educated at Harvard were white males and for 88% of its existence the only people educated were male, the vast majority of whom had the 2 most required qualifications and that was being white and connected to the class of white people whose sons were educated at Harvard. It has never made any difference if that sone was a dead eyed slack jawed frick child if his daddy went to Harvard and had the money to send junior Junior was a Harvard man....merit has never meant a thing in this country except when we pretend it is used to select the best and brightest....
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