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re: Why do poor or poorer people tend to be happier in life?

Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:07 pm to
Because this country has setup a system to keep their needs met with no work whatsoever on their part. Their has never been a better time in history to be poor and stupid than in the US right now.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:13 pm to
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Happier people tend to be happier in life, money isn’t the factor.


I've come to this conclusion as well.

There's a family that I've met via our sons playing on the same basketball and baseball teams over the years. This family has gone through a lot due to medical issues with one of their younger children, both parents work and they are debt ridden as most typical middle classer's.

Yet they are some of the kindest, happiest people I've ever met. Both parents are very intelligent and they're not holy rollers or anything like that.

They're just good, happy people and so are their kids. They don't just ignore their problems. They just handle life as it comes and make the most of their time.

On paper, it would seem that I'm much more successful than people like this but I don't see it that way.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Because this country has setup a system to keep their needs met with no work whatsoever on their part. Their has never been a better time in history to be poor and stupid than in the US right now.




I work with a lot of poorer people who I can gaurantee do more work and harder work than you do.


And they are probably happier than you.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:14 pm to
The greater the wealth the greater the insulation from the average man is part of it but the bigger part is it becomes the dog chasing its tail as folks come out of the woodwork to get a piece of the $$$$. If you are poor and your partner still loves you it is more real than one who may have doubts their value exceeds their wallet.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:14 pm to
You sound like more of a dumbass than her.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:15 pm to
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What is your theory on this phenomenon?
The studies are backwards. Happy people aren't as motivated to go get more because they're happy. Unhappy people try to find happiness with money.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2913 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:25 pm to
In my experience, poor people are less happy than your average person. Having to constantly scramble and improvise to keep the rent paid whenever an unexpected expense pops up is extremely stressful. Working a job for low pay that will never allow you to save any meaningful amount of money isn't any fun either.

The sweet spot that lets you be happy in life is taking a path of moderation where you have financial security but your work life also allows you to enjoy family, friends, hobbies, etc.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:26 pm to
I could be wrong, but I think happiness is proportional to intelligence. People with downs or who are otherwise mentally handicapped are alwys happy unless they are being abused. The more intelligent someone is, the more aware of the world around them they become. The more aware someone is, the more they see the need and opportunity for improvement in themselves and others. Trying to improve your station while fixing yourself and the world can be depressing.work.

Accepting things the way they are and living in the moment is much more condusive to happiness than always looking ahead at the next problem that needs fixing.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16971 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:30 pm to
Traveling around to 2nd and 3rd world countries it's amazing how many generally happy and nice people you see and meet. Some of these people live in what we consider squalor and have absolutely "nothing" as far as possessions go.

I would truly like to know what their rates of depression and suicide are compared to the U.S.

That thread about that cute young girl committing suicide comes to mind. She would appear to have "everything" compared to most people around the world.

It really makes you question your values. Perception plays a big role.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4068 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:30 pm to
Most of the best things in life are free. They aren't worried about material things and keeping up with the Jones'. Most of their lives focus around family. I'm talking about 3rd world poverty like Peru.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:31 pm to
Because they are too dumb to know better
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:33 pm to
Because a wealthy person isn’t going to appreciate what they have.

Also, drugs make you happy so that’s probably why poors are happy
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1397 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:37 pm to
I don’t believe studies back up your theory.
From what I have read, there is essentially a break even point. Being low income is directly correlated to unhappiness (struggling to pay bills, dealing with extra issues associated with poor areas etc), but after a certain point, then happiness and money are no longer correlated. This study says it is $105,000 in the US. LINK
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:37 pm to
I actually saw a study that says the opposite. Money increases happiness up until you make about $75k per year, then the returns are diminishing.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:41 pm to
it’s a dumb meme.

It’s not actually true that legitimately poor people are happier than wealthy people. It’s been debunked numerous times but we still keep hearing it.

Sitting around wondering if you have enough money to pay your electric bill or rent isn’t a path to happiness. Surprise surprise
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34960 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:42 pm to
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. I'm talking about 3rd world poverty like Peru.




It's amazing how everyone took poor people to mean only poor Americans.


Having traveled to Central American countries, their populations seem generally happier than a well to do American family.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Yet, though the wealthy don’t appear to receive a joy bump from their income, the poor do suffer from greater daily sadness than the rich. Controlled for daily activities—from commuting, to socializing, to talking on the phone—researchers found that “poorer people feel sadder than wealthier people because income predicts greater sadness throughout the day regardless of what people are doing.”


30 seconds of research could have kept you from passing off nonsense as a known truth

New Republic

“Poor” people, as you said, may be more content in some ways (as some research shows), but they also experience a great deal of sadness and daily struggles that are a result of their financial situation.

Poorer people also experience lower life expectancies, more health problems and a higher rate of suicide.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296800 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:56 pm to
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I actually saw a study that says the opposite. Money increases happiness up until you make about $75k per year, then the returns are diminishing.


Correct.


Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38916 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:59 pm to
Money has nothing to do with happiness. Poor people appreciate the little things way more
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 3:03 pm to
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I actually saw a study that says the opposite. Money increases happiness up until you make about $75k per year, then the returns are diminishing.

LINK
Yeah, it makes sense. Material gain is not the impetus for financial security. The daily struggles of poverty provide that motivation. Wealth and material gain can then follow.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 3:05 pm
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