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re: Why do people think that American doctors are better than other countries?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:02 am to AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:02 am to AbuTheMonkey
Most doctors I know seem to be somewhere on the autism spectrum
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:03 am to Kujo
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Kujo
Did a doctor bang your girl or was your girl a doctor who got banged by someone other than yourself
Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:05 am to Kujo
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You're projecting your ignorant perceptions across an entire industry.
Okay, search a similarly populated "science" based job, and Google news search "doctor arrested" and for example "chemist arrested"
which has more hits. greed manifests itself.
Well, for starters, you ignorant dip shite, there are about 12 times as many doctors in the US as there are chemists.
And most importantly, the concept of risk allocation seems to elude you completely. Doctors are largely self-insured (or self-insured backed via their provider organizations) whereas chemists, as your one example (and most other scientist examples), are both insured under a huge corporate umbrella (Dow, as one example) and don't have personal liability for whether or not their product is safe and successful.
You should just admit that you don't have the first clue as to what you're talking about here.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:12 am to Jim Rockford
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Most doctors I know seem to be somewhere on the autism spectrum
Most younger doctors are very mission-driven - not too dissimilar from teachers in that sense.
Financial incentives aren't that great any longer for physicians. You live a comfortable life, but the lifetime economic value isn't really much different on average from a competent CPA or a decent banker or whatever else. In real - in the economic sense - terms, going into large six figure debt and not making any serious income until you're 32 with that level of education is no longer a financially lucrative decision. It's a low risk decision - probably why there are a lot of women in the profession now - with lucrative benefits, but there is a limited range of income with it.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 1:13 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 2:03 am to Kujo
Because if their lifestyle, not their doctors.
I live in a small German village where my 80 year old neighbor still rides her bike to the marketplace everyday.
I’ll bet your 80 year old grandma can barely get around.
I live in a small German village where my 80 year old neighbor still rides her bike to the marketplace everyday.
I’ll bet your 80 year old grandma can barely get around.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 5:04 am to Kujo
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Kujo
I hope you keep going. This is entertaining.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 5:07 am to AbuTheMonkey
quote:I mean, at this point, everyone knows already.
You should just admit that you don't have the first clue as to what you're talking about here.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 5:27 am to Kujo
brainwashing.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 5:57 am to Kujo
lol @ your logic.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:14 am to Cosmo
"Why do people think that American doctors are better than other countries?"
Could it be that the best medical schools in the world are located in America. Would you not also infer from this that doctors trained at the top medical schools would also be considered the best in the world?
Could it be that the best medical schools in the world are located in America. Would you not also infer from this that doctors trained at the top medical schools would also be considered the best in the world?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:29 am to cyarrr
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According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.
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Doctors are prone to drug and alcohol abuse. It's estimated that rates of addiction among the general population run from 8% to 10%; among physicians, the rates start at 10% and rise to 15%.
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More recently, a 2012 study of American surgeons published in JAMA Surgery found 15.4 percent suffered from an alcohol use disorder. Female surgeons (25.6 percent) were more likely than male surgeons (13.9 percent) to exhibit symptoms of alcohol addiction.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:40 am to Kujo
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Med school isn’t like other professional or graduate programs which are plagued by high attrition rates. Graduate school for example has an average of 20-40% attrition rate depending on the program. Medical school has around a 4-6% attrition rate total which means that when you’re accepted to medical school you have a 95% chance of becoming a doctor.
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Medical schools don’t want to kick you out, so you’ll get many chances if you fail. These policies vary school to school but are generally quite similar. Most schools will assign you a tutor (typically at no extra charge) if they see you are performing subpar, even if you’re not failing. One failed test is usually harmless if you end up passing the class as a whole, but it will likely trigger some sort of observation to make sure you’re not falling behind. Remediation exams are offered after a failed course and may replace one test or may be an assessment of the entire course. If you pass you will usually get the lowest passing score possible for that course but you continue on your way. If you fail again or fail another course in the future you may have to go in front of the promotions committee. Here they will assess whether you’re doing so poorly that you’d benefit from doing the entire year again or if a remediation exam is appropriate. They typically don’t “recommend withdrawal” after failing one year, but failing the same year twice is going to put you in hot water. Some states have a requirement for you to pass in a certain amount of time so this may change how lenient they are with you. Students who fail a year generally try to use the time to either study or do research in their off time because they’re aware their transcript won’t look as good with a failed year.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:44 am to Kujo
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Medical draws ONLY those who seek status and money. No amount of hoops can keep the scum from lying and cheating to get that Dr. by their name and the "respect" it draws from low brow people because "damn I heard he makes 300k/year"
As a doctor, go frick yourself. I didn't think you could prove yourself any dumber in this thread, but damn son you outdid yourself.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:47 am to Kujo
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4 more years of school then you start working. 1-2 years longer than I guess most masters programs. big whoop
You don't even realize residencies exist.
Jesus christ man, how fricking dumb are you?Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:49 am to cwil177
quote:I mean, have you been following this thread?
how fricking dumb are you?
He found some articles on the internet saying doctors suck. What more info do you want?
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:51 am to Kujo
Just use Mick Jagger as an example. The man is a multimillionaire and can afford to have surgery anywhere in the world. He chose to have it done at a hospital in New York.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:53 am to boom roasted
Oh no, I've read the entire thread. It's genuinely hilarious how oblivious one can be. 95% of med students become doctors. Well yeah, the acceptance rate at LSU NOLA is 7%. As the saying goes, the hardest part of medical school is getting in (although I would argue for many of those who get in the actual schooling is way more difficult than the admissions process).
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:55 am to Kujo
So you would rather see a doctor in “Cambodia, Peru, Greece, Venezuela, etc, etc” for a major illness than the US?
I’ve had the unfortunate experience of having to use doctors in Mexico, Dominican Republic and Russia. I will absolutely take a US doctor over any of those.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:03 am to cwil177
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don't even realize residencies exist.
paid to go to work right? just like everyone else w/o experience. "oh but we don't get 300k yet" cry me a river
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:05 am to Kujo
You want to share the reason for this deep-seeded dislike of doctors?
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