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re: Why do people on this board act like humans are the weakest creatures on earth?

Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

It mentions how full of shite your 847 lb arm pull is



just quoting a study. There are certainly other studies stating they aren't as strong as we thought. None have said humans are stronger lb for lb that I've seen.

Again, did OP provide a link? I am genuinely curious.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

ok, point me in that direcion?

because I have links for days showing otherwise.


Neither of them have provided any evidence to any of their claims.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

the largest chimp in the Bronx zoo was able to pull 847 lbs with one arm.



Ummm... What kind of pull are we talking.

Hanging weight? Sled? Dead weight on wheels?

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:43 pm to
My research is the same as yours. Googling.

but from the same article

quote:

So the figures quoted by primate experts are a little exaggerated. But it is a fact that chimpanzees and other apes are stronger than humans.



again, did PO provide a link showing where it was proven that humans are lb for lb stronger?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

again, did PO provide a link showing where it was proven that humans are lb for lb stronger?

i never said that

I said elite humans

Chimps are estimated 1.5-2x stronger than the average human per body mass


Trained elite humans are greater than 2x stronger than the average human per body mass
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 4:48 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Neither of them have provided any evidence to any of their claims.



he attempted to say my article proved that humans were stronger, lb for lb. It stated literally the exact opposite.

This is fricking hysterical.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:47 pm to
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i never said that



quote:

It's even been proven humans are actually pound for pound stronger than chimps( at least top level humans).



quote:

did OP ever provide proof of this ?


lsupride

quote:

yes


maybe you misread, but this is your exact response to my question. Feel free to go back and look.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:48 pm to
i've seen both of those studies. Neither mention that humans are stronger than chimps.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:48 pm to
This thread delivers
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:48 pm to
I specifically said elite level humans, and I have specifically only talked about elite level humans

Good try
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:49 pm to
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i've seen both of those studies. Neither mention that humans are stronger than chimps.


and neither did I
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:49 pm to
Is this a 16 page thread on whether humans are stronger than apes
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72157 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

i never said that

I said elite humans

Chimps are estimated 1.5-2x stronger than the average human per body mass


Trained elite humans are greater than 2x stronger than the average human per body mass


what the frick are we even talking about here.

I literally quoted the OPs claim, asked if he provided proof,and you said yes.

Now the goalposts are way over there and we are talking about Zeus vs your average chimp? Christ.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

and neither did I



yes, you did.

Do you need links?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

what the frick are we even talking about here.

I literally quoted the OPs claim, asked if he provided proof,and you said yes.

Now the goalposts are way over there and we are talking about Zeus vs your average chimp? Christ
I never once moved the goalposts in my argument

I have always only compared he average chimp against elite trained human fighters

Go check my first post
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:52 pm to
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what the frick are we even talking about here.

I literally quoted the OPs claim, asked if he provided proof,and you said yes.

Now the goalposts are way over there and we are talking about Zeus vs your average chimp? Christ.

Well, shite. You just summed up all 16 pages of this thread.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111398 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

yes, you did.
I read what you linked

I specifically put the description (elite level humans)

It’s simple

The average chimp is stronger than the average human pound per pound

The elite trained human is stronger than the average chimp pound per poond
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

I never once moved the goalposts in my argument

To his credit, he's telling the truth here. He came into the thread hot with the Brock Lesnar vs. the chimp angle and has been steadfast there.

Hawgsincebirth is the idiot who started off with average man with any martial arts training would wreck an average chimp.

This thread has entertained me all afternoon. I seent it all.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 4:57 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52189 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:55 pm to
His claim is that a top of the curve human could win a fight against a chimp because they're stronger.

It completely ignores most of what makes wild animals dangerous to human beings.
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