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re: Why do people not want my money?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:03 am to BayouBengal
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:03 am to BayouBengal
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But the Roto-Rooter and John Moore types actually show up. So if you don't have "a guy" you may be stuck with these companies to get it done and done on time.
They do show up, quickly usually. But they rape you on the cost, try to upsell you a whole bunch of shite, and generally do crappy work.
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:10 am to LSUFanHouston
I would assume all of the complainers in this thread are small government, free-market type guys?
I do 99% of my work by myself. I'll paint, drywall, small plumbing, small electrical, wood repair/replace.
Part of the problem is the things I'm reading in this thread, people who don't know what they're talking about putting dollar figures on something. Op, how do you know what you think it should cost. Experience?
Stout, what license should a guy have to replace some rotted wood?
I do 99% of my work by myself. I'll paint, drywall, small plumbing, small electrical, wood repair/replace.
Part of the problem is the things I'm reading in this thread, people who don't know what they're talking about putting dollar figures on something. Op, how do you know what you think it should cost. Experience?
Stout, what license should a guy have to replace some rotted wood?
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:13 am to Cosmo
You went through a whole lot of trouble just to brag about getting a couple thousand dollars worth of work done to your house
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:13 am to beerJeep
Pesos, Coronas and chili dogs
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:13 am to Cosmo
Times are way too good and customers too plentiful to provide good service. People need to be poorer.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:13 am to arcalades
the jobs are not big enough, not even close. If it was worth 2x the money, they still wouldn't care. My neighbor just got an estimate for close to $5 grand and they told him it's just not worth it. They said they'd eventually do it, but it would be their lowest priority and months if not year+.
---this is correct
---this is correct
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:18 am to Cosmo
Do it yourself. With YouTube, you have a guide for any task. I am installing hardwoods right now. Saved 2Gs on labor for two rooms.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:24 am to Cosmo
It's not terribly difficult to find decent people in the NOLA area if you just hop on the Next Door App and look in the recommendations section. You get real life referrals and, more importantly, you get local people likely in your own neighborhood posting looking for work like that. I've used a tile guy, flooring guy, sheetrock guy and paint guy all from referrals off of Next Door. 3 of the 4 guys lived within a few blocks of me.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:33 am to Cosmo
Entirely too much liability for the reward. Why risk having to have an insurance claim brought on you for only say $500 in profit. With small jobs you only make like 5/8 profit from what you quote and god forbid you quote high, you’re going to bitch. Problem is people aren’t skilled anymore and people love to bitch. It’s really easy to build something from scratch, it actually takes a brain to rebuild something that is 20 years old, and falling apart. All of the good guys are packed with profitable jobs while your sueing snobby arse is stuck with the shite guys who know what’s going to happen and not worth the risk.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:35 am to Cosmo
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Is the home improvement baw job market so good that they say frick it i dont want this guys money?
The economy under Trump is so good, they can turn away business and pick and choose.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:44 am to Revelator
In my experience, a lot of the good sub guys who are in demand also work for a bigger outfit so they've only got a few days a week to devote to side projects
Honestly, I'm ok waiting if the communication is good, but usually it isn't. If you're in a job/profession where you are in regular contact and good about updates with your partners/clients/people you're negotiating w/, etc. it's frustrating to deal w/ people who just do not think about things the same way. I don't necessarily blame them, I might envy them, but it's frustrating all the same.
Honestly, I'm ok waiting if the communication is good, but usually it isn't. If you're in a job/profession where you are in regular contact and good about updates with your partners/clients/people you're negotiating w/, etc. it's frustrating to deal w/ people who just do not think about things the same way. I don't necessarily blame them, I might envy them, but it's frustrating all the same.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:49 am to Cosmo
God damn, are you a man? Do that shite yourself.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:52 am to Cosmo
Don’t you live uptown? Those guys are hard to come by. The guy we use for our rentals is about to turn 66 and quitting once he’s eligible for SS benefits.
Legit handymen are tough to come by these days.
Legit handymen are tough to come by these days.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:56 am to cas4t
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I'm in Tennessee, though.
I’m in Tennessee and need a guy. What part of the state is Kevin in?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:08 am to Cosmo
Try home advisor. I just used a guy from there to do a small electrical job for me and he was very good and professional
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:15 am to Cosmo
A lot of those kids coming out of college with six figure debt from women's studies, PRTM or a marine biology degree would have been better served learning a trade.
When times are good, small jobs are a pain for those in the trades to deal with. You have limited information about what is going on behind the walls, the time to visit the site, assess the problem and come up with a proposal is not small and you may not win the job. So the cost of doing business is high, and it is easy to get undercut on jobs. The alternative is you can work on a job site where its a sure thing you will get paid, and these days you will get paid well. People working on those one-off repair jobs probably need a 30-50% rate premium to be as profitable as large jobs/new construction will inherently be.
We just had an issue with a leak where I needed to replace a small tile shower due to a failed shower pan. I did all the demo to the studs, and we reached out to about five different contractors. Only three showed up of which only two gave a price. One was $6,500 and the other was $2,700. We went with the $2,700, but it ended up being closer to $3,500 because they did things like not account for a plumber being needed. I would have done the job myself (did our previous bathroom), but we had a tight window to turn it around.
When times are good, small jobs are a pain for those in the trades to deal with. You have limited information about what is going on behind the walls, the time to visit the site, assess the problem and come up with a proposal is not small and you may not win the job. So the cost of doing business is high, and it is easy to get undercut on jobs. The alternative is you can work on a job site where its a sure thing you will get paid, and these days you will get paid well. People working on those one-off repair jobs probably need a 30-50% rate premium to be as profitable as large jobs/new construction will inherently be.
We just had an issue with a leak where I needed to replace a small tile shower due to a failed shower pan. I did all the demo to the studs, and we reached out to about five different contractors. Only three showed up of which only two gave a price. One was $6,500 and the other was $2,700. We went with the $2,700, but it ended up being closer to $3,500 because they did things like not account for a plumber being needed. I would have done the job myself (did our previous bathroom), but we had a tight window to turn it around.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:18 am to Cosmo
Went through the same thing when getting estimates for a patio cover and gutter. Called 4 people. 2 never showed up to price the job. 1 came out and measured but never got back with us on the price. It's a shame
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:31 am to LCA131
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I do 99% of my work by myself. I'll paint, drywall, small plumbing, small electrical, wood repair/replace.
Part of the problem is the things I'm reading in this thread, people who don't know what they're talking about putting dollar figures on something. Op, how do you know what you think it should cost. Experience?
Stout, what license should a guy have to replace some rotted wood?
I'll do all the maintenance on my house myself. I even contracted my roof myself and just hired workers to do the installation. I think every homeowner should at least have an understanding of what to do.
I know you asked stout, but you should have liability insurance if you're working of someones house. I carried it when I subbed, it's not expensive.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:33 am to Cosmo
Go to Home Depot and there'll be aliens there willing to work for cash.
Just be sure they're not wanting to take over the planet.
OK not that kind of aliens.
Just be sure they're not wanting to take over the planet.
OK not that kind of aliens.
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