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re: Why do Airlines suck so much these days?

Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Can’t find people to work.


I work in transportation, and yeah.. people just do not want to work today even for good pay.


Us, like airlines are having to cancel routes for the year. Its a job that anyone can get to 100k, think its the drug testing thats the issue.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21831 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Most everything requiring customer service and being on a schedule sucks these days.


Airlines know that people have short memories when it comes to bad experiences because at the end of the day, most customers just care about finding the best price. Southwest stranded thousands of people for days during the holidays and it’s a distant memory for most people.
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6303 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:40 pm to
The main problem with airlines is they stopped treating their customers like people and started treating them like cattle.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82807 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

The main problem with airlines is they stopped treating their customers like people and started treating them like cattle.



you have to play to your audience
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24714 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:42 pm to
People take the industry for granted.

Let’s put 300 people 30K ft up in the air in a metal tube going 500mph and have a 0% failure rate….oh, and make sure it’s always on time and I only want to pay $300 round trip.

It’s ludicrous how advanced aviation has gotten yet how the passengers are so unforgiving.

I used to travel a ton for work and I always had a mindset of “my job is to get here on time and theirs is to make sure I get there safely”
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1477 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:45 pm to
Part of the problem is people want everything cheap, so this is the result.

In not wealthy by any stretch, but I rather take less trips and only fly business / first for anything over ~2 hours. Economy on most flights is unbearable to me. Primarily due to the people more than the accommodations to be honest.

Cheap ain’t good and good ain’t cheap.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60647 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I'll only get on a plane if drive is more than 15 hours

yeah because being in the highway and stuck in traffic around the cities is better than flying? LOL

6 hours is my cutoff for driving Vs flying.
And I will never drive from New Orleans to Houston again. Always fly

Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49085 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

American Airlines
may as well be spirit or frontier
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23366 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:56 pm to
Short answer: Airline Deregulation Act of 1978. It got more people flying, less luxury airlines, etc.

So now instead of wearing suits on 747's and enjoying that sweet doubledecker lounge they used to have, you can fly on Spirit Airlines and get punched in the face at the gate by some animal.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5201 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:56 pm to
Had a flight this week stop allowing carry ons after 60 bags. The flight was half boarded when they made the announcement and everyone had to check a bag after that. I was very confused. Especially once I boarded to see the overhead luggage 60% full.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14375 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

So now instead of wearing suits on 747's and enjoying that sweet doubledecker lounge they used to have,


I’m sure your secretary misses you asking what color her panties are while chowing down on your Salisbury steak and red wine to wash it down.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14289 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:05 pm to
Airports and flights have sucked since 9/11 and Covid was the final straw. Passengers pay a premium and are put dead last in priority, convenience, and comfort.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101683 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:06 pm to
Depends on the airline but all indications are that the vouchers tend to be worth as much as Confederate money due to restriction on when you have to use them by and how much you can use on a single flight IIRC.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3218 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:08 pm to
Why in the hell are y’all piling on 777? He is just trying to explain the current system, aircraft and weather limitations that go into decision making before takeoff. If you are on that plane and, God Forbid, lose an engine, you will be damn glad he is making the proper decisions on your behalf. Jeez
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25947 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:08 pm to
Saw this happen in Phoenix in 2016 when it got to about 121 degrees. Eventually they couldn’t fly the CRJ’s in there for a few days.

Heat limits the capacity of some of those smaller jets.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
12x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
49228 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:08 pm to
Key West has a short arse runway, and it’s hot as frick. The hotter it is, the more your airplane says “frick you” when you tell it to fly. The heavier your airplane is - the same effect. Combining those two things = a double frick you. Not typically an issue getting in, but almost always an issue getting out.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
210 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Short answer: Airline Deregulation Act of 1978. It got more people flying, less luxury airlines, etc. So now instead of wearing suits on 747's and enjoying that sweet doubledecker lounge they used to have, you can fly on Spirit Airlines and get punched in the face at the gate by some animal.


99% of this forum are spirit airlines passenger type of people but like to act like they aren’t
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17328 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

American Airlines


I'm sorry
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:35 pm to
Just got back from Hawaii yesterday. Flew American Airlines and it was flawless. Went from New Orleans to Phoenix to Kauai and back through Phoenix to New Orleans. Left 5ish minutes early and arrived 30ish minutes early. Love AA over all the other airlines
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1092 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:38 pm to
The airline knew it was gonna be hot in July and they knew the runway length, before they sold tickets.

Just funny to see what we do and don’t make excuses for.
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