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re: Why didn't Germany invade Switzerland?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:43 pm to gumbo2176
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:43 pm to gumbo2176
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he Swiss were Neutral, and known for being neutral in such matters. The Germans would have look like bigger dicks than they already were by the world powers if the invaded Switzerland
**FAR** from neutral. They were busy laundering Hitler's war riches. The Swiss were converting Hitler's new-found gold into Swiss Francs... which allowed the Germans to continue financial connections with the rest of the world. They were also working over time manufacturing war supplies for the Nazi's. Last but not least, the Swiss also sold out their Jewish population by forcing them all to have a red "J" on passports...making them easy targets for Adolf's agenda.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:47 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
quote:Had a good friend who was a Swiss engineer. He said every bridge an tunnel in Switzerland is designed to be blown up in less than 24 hours notice. Explosives are within a half hour, and the civil defense does regular drills.
5. Switzerland was too important of a transportation artery to bomb, as the tunnels through the Alps provided a vital link to Italy.
They're prepared to fight from the mountains for years.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:48 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
And toblerones aren’t just chocolate.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:11 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
“It’s a sorry rat that doesn’t have a second escape hole.”
Not the primary reason but, as things evolved, it probably appeared to the Nazi leaders as a lifeboat or a good Plan B in case the worse case happened.
German spoken there, no-tell banks, the ability to sneak over southern France into Spain. A station out on their version of a Underground Railroad.
Not the primary reason but, as things evolved, it probably appeared to the Nazi leaders as a lifeboat or a good Plan B in case the worse case happened.
German spoken there, no-tell banks, the ability to sneak over southern France into Spain. A station out on their version of a Underground Railroad.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:30 pm to MiDixon Yermouth
They WERE neutral, hence why they did business with Germany as well as the allies. Being that it was a total,global war, they were punished for not choosing the right side. I think some of you guys need to look up what "neutral" means.
As far as German conquest, there was no reason to and the cost would have been really high (see other answers about Swiss military policies and difficult terrain)
As far as German conquest, there was no reason to and the cost would have been really high (see other answers about Swiss military policies and difficult terrain)
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:35 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
I know it’s already been said, but the topography of Switzerland is like Colorado.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:50 pm to tigahbruh
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They WERE neutral,
Sweden was a true neutral and took no shite from Germany, taking in refugees and even using its influence to try to save POWs and concentration camp inmates. Even Spain stood up to Germany on some significant issues. Switzerland was a "friendly neutral" for most of the war and even afterward, making themselves useful in any number of ways. Maybe you can't fault them too much because Germany could and would have invaded if necessary, and if they had been really determined, the Swiss couldn't have stopped them. But at any rate, Switzerland wasn't exactly a profile in courage.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:48 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Why didn't Germany invade Lichenstein?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:19 am to VolsOut4Harambe
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I think this theory is a load of crap as the Germans stormed through the Balkans like it was nothing.
They didn't have much trouble with Greece, but the Serbs gave the NAZIS all they could handle and more. The Wehrmacht's invasion of Yugoslavia signed 6th Army's death warrant. Although they were able to quickly get a capitulation from the poorly equipped national army, they had to keep dozens of divisions (which could've made a big difference at Stalingrad) in Yugoland because of the incessant guerrilla warfare, especially in all those mountains.
The partisans were really strong. Those South Slavs have a strong tradition of personal armament whether they're in the military or not. Parents ensure even their little girls can maintain an assault rifle by the time their done with middle school. Once the Russians had the Germans in full retreat, they 'liberated' NAZI occupied countries all over the east block. We called them the Warsaw Pact.
The South Slavs declined the invitation. They didn't need the Russians to save them, as they were able to eject the Wehrmacht by (irregular) militarily force themselves as soon they started having to pull out troops to defend Greater Germany. And they promptly fortified their borders with Russian "liberated" neighbors.
I doubt Hitler would've attacked the Helvettii, as they're largely Germans and Italians themselves now. And those mountains can be a bitch! They wouldn't do stop bombers, but Panzers would be largely sidelined. They'd have to lean on paratrooper drops and light mountain infantry. It would suck as bad as storming a beach or conducting an assault through a jungle or swamp. The Swiss didn't openly defy the Reich and piss off Hitler the way the Yugoslavs did.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:44 am to Woodreaux
The northern third of Switzerland, with most of the population, industry, and other things of interest to an invader, is a lot less mountainous. It would be a lot easier to conquer the valuable region and let the partisans starve in the hills.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:55 am to GetCocky11
Idk man. You may be giving them too much credit.
Those dumb fricks invaded Russia in winter.
Those dumb fricks invaded Russia in winter.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:10 am to VolsOut4Harambe
He wanted open access to open banking markets.
If the nazis invaded, the allies would shut out the Swiss banks.
If the nazis invaded, the allies would shut out the Swiss banks.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:31 am to VolsOut4Harambe
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Switzerland was basically Hitler's bank
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:34 am to VolsOut4Harambe
Hitler had his hands full with major troop commitments on two fronts. Invading Switzerland had a lot of minuses and few plusses.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 6:06 am to Jim Rockford
quote:Ehhh, that’s your version maybe.
Even Spain stood up to Germany on some significant issues.
Franco kept his distance from being sucked into the Axis alliance as a strategic political move. Franco had no radical moral differences with the Nazis. He was cut out of the same Machiavellian cloth as were Hitler & Mussolini. As the tide of the European war went against the Axis, Franco played the long game (for himself). Spain did whatever little standing up to Nazi Germany it was going to do in ‘44 or ‘45, and from what I’ve read, that was mostly in spite of Franco* rather than a decree or policy change from him.
*Spanish diplomats abroad with consciences going rogue and helping folks.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 6:18 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The country of Switzerland is the greatest argument in favor of the 2nd Amendment.
The difference is I believe they arent allowed to actually use their weapons unless it is war time.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:43 am to NYNolaguy1
I wonder why they don't have frequent mass shootings like we do. Maybe better mental health outreach?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:52 am to Kentucker
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I wonder why they don't have frequent mass shootings like we do. Maybe better mental health outreach?
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I wonder why they don't have frequent mass shootings like we do. Maybe better mental health outreach?
Their ammo is in sealed containers and they arent allowed to use it unless it is war time.
Are you suggesting there is no mass shootings because they dont have access to those weapons?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:04 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Has the idea of getting columns of Panzer into, onto, and around mountains in anything wider than two abreast been broached?
Germany was fully tied into Blitzkrieg, especially against the Poles. I doubt this would have worked so well in the Alps where tanks can not just wreak havoc across open land or countryside as in the Netherlands, Belgium and northeast France.
Germany was fully tied into Blitzkrieg, especially against the Poles. I doubt this would have worked so well in the Alps where tanks can not just wreak havoc across open land or countryside as in the Netherlands, Belgium and northeast France.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:12 pm to gumbo2176
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I didn't say that's why they didn't invade the Swiss. I just said that's how the probably would have been perceived early on in the war.
They didn't commit many of their atrocities until they were well into WWII.
The point is that they didn't particularly care how they were perceived.
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