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re: Why did Ruby kill Oswald?
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:02 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:02 pm to Ace Midnight
The citizen is the fourth part of the government's checks and balances 
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:05 pm to samson73103
Why would the mob want him dead?
I figured the cia and the industrial part of the military-industrial complex would want him killed
I figured the cia and the industrial part of the military-industrial complex would want him killed
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:07 pm to lsucoonass
Kennedy may have passed at a young age had he not been treated for Addison's disease
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:09 pm to Lambdatiger1989
Never understood how his autopsy results have remained such a mystery, and why it wasn't done in Dallas. Lends to all the conspiracy theories for sure.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:11 pm to Ace Midnight
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So are people who take the Warren Commission Report as gospel. Healthy skepticism is a good thing.
I certainly don't.
I meant what I said in good taste. I am fascinated by this stuff too, I just am a naturally "occams razor" kind of guy.
I WANT TO BELIEVE THOUGH. Convince me!
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:12 pm to LSUlefty
Oswald was a hired stooge to do the hit and Jack Rubenstein silenced him.
JFK was taken out because of his opposition to the federal reserve
JFK was taken out because of his opposition to the federal reserve
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:15 pm to accnodefense
Can't believe no one saw these two handsome devils...
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:15 pm to say when
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Agree 100%. If you watch the video it's obvious the shot hit Kennedy on the right front side of the head and exited through the left rear. At the time of impact, Oswald was directly behind the vehicle which would make the angle impossible to cause that wound.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:18 pm to Hester Carries
Corsican assassins took the shot...Oswald put one in the building,
One killed the cop...
Oswald knew he was being set up, he told his New Orleans girlfriend the night before...
One killed the cop...
Oswald knew he was being set up, he told his New Orleans girlfriend the night before...
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:05 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I just am a naturally "occams razor" kind of guy.
My frequent references to the razor in my post should suggest that I am, too. I also believe in coincidences - coincidences happen all the time - but I just don't trust them.
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I WANT TO BELIEVE THOUGH.
I don't want to believe the government or elements of the government did it - but I'm not blind, either.
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Convince me!
I can't. I don't know. I agree with you the exploration of the facts of this particular historical event is extremely intriguing.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:05 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Oswald was a Russian loving marksmen.
He was a mediocre marksman at best.
I've said it before. Only a world class sniper could made those shots on a moving target from that distance.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:11 pm to lsucoonass
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Why would the mob want him dead?
They (LCN, mainly, and Traficante, specifically, -Cuban organized crime activities fell under Tampa's jurisdiction) felt betrayed that the U.S. government lost Cuba to the commies, then turned on them when JFK got elected and made Bobby AG.
I'm not saying they did it, but they definitely had a motive. They were also disappointed in JFK's extremely tepid support for the Cuban exiles at the Bay of Pigs - essentially as this was an Ike-authorized, CIA counterrevolutionary operation that continued the partnership of U.S intelligence and LCN, along with their Sicilian and Italian associates that began, in earnest, during WWII.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:43 pm to Meatball
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I've said it before. Only a world class sniper could made those shots on a moving target from that distance.
I think the best evidence is he royally screwed up a much easier shot with the same weapon on General Walker.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:58 pm to therick711
I have one question that you can take either way. Oswald had ties to shady characters all over, ties to Russia, and ties to Cuban issues. All with reasons to not want JFK around.
But for Oswald personally if he was the lone assassin. What would he gain personally from doing it. That's the question I have.
So as a conspiracy believer I'm sure he was promised refuge, money, and power.
As a lone gunman, what is there to gain? You have got to imagine you would be caught.
But for Oswald personally if he was the lone assassin. What would he gain personally from doing it. That's the question I have.
So as a conspiracy believer I'm sure he was promised refuge, money, and power.
As a lone gunman, what is there to gain? You have got to imagine you would be caught.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:20 pm to Meatball
I know the rifle, but how long of a shot are we talking?
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:23 pm to bott18240
As I've posted before in these JFK as a sin at ion threads, one of my HS class mate's father was on Garrison's staff in his investigation. He told me that they were on to something with the whole Oswald, Ferrie, Clay Shaw, Guy Bannister, Dean Andrews relationships, but they were stonewalled, criticized, etc to try to continue. He said that there were too many coincidences in that whole investigation for there not to be some kind of conspiracy.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:28 pm to East Coast Band
One of the first world class Photoshops I remember seeing.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:36 pm to Tortious
No one thinks it was the rich bankers because of executive order 11110?
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:43 pm to Ace Midnight
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Uh - there is some doubt.
People doubt: 1) that there was a moon landing; 2) that humans are causing global warming; 3) that the earth is round; 3) and Elvis is dead; 4) that Oswald acted alone; 5) that dinosaurs roamed the earth; and, 6) that speciation is caused natural selection, among many other generally accepted facts. Their brains cannot accept elegant, reasonable and logical explanations for things and they latch onto every conceivable kooky or semi-plausible explanation the way demented people embellish floaters into talking bumblebees.
The existence of doubt in the minds of such people doesn't make that doubt reasonable.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:52 pm to BiggerBear
LHO shot Kennedy and he was the only one to do so
That he did not act alone, to say that there were people and motives behind him is 100% reasonable
Lived in the Soviet Union, the woman who said she had a meeting with he, oschner and others was hacked apart and her home lit on fire. He went to the Cuban embassy in Mexico trying to enter Cuba not long before the assassination
It's entirely plausible he was just a nut, but it's entirely plausible he killed Kennedy on behalf of someone or some group of people.
That he did not act alone, to say that there were people and motives behind him is 100% reasonable
Lived in the Soviet Union, the woman who said she had a meeting with he, oschner and others was hacked apart and her home lit on fire. He went to the Cuban embassy in Mexico trying to enter Cuba not long before the assassination
It's entirely plausible he was just a nut, but it's entirely plausible he killed Kennedy on behalf of someone or some group of people.
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