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Why can't a cop be a member of a "hate group"

Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:11 pm
It is not illegal to be in the Klan, Black Panthers, or any other hate group. It is illegal to do some of the things they do.
If you are in the group because of your beliefs but not doing the illegal shite, that's your God given, Constitutional Right.
How can cops be fired for being in these groups?
There is a cop under investigation right now in Plaquemine Parish for being in some kind of anti-gay group.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
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apart of a "hate group"


So, not a member?
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
Because if you're a cop and you hate a certain race of people, that's kind of a conflict of interest. Isn't this how people end up getting shot?
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:13 pm to
Because they're sworn to defend all citizens, including your idiot arse.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
I give the SPLC about as much credence as a bum shouting on the street. Their bias is palpable.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
Is this a serious question?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
I would think the obvious question is you couldn't trust the judgment of someone who belonged to such a group

Cops are already an untrustworthy lot without intentionally hiring a bunch of bigots
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
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There is a cop under investigation right now in Plaquemine Parish for being in some kind of anti-gay group.
Is this the guy that is in trouble for "liking" a Proud Boys page?
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:16 pm to
So you are telling me that a guy that believes in separatism cannot protect another race from a crime?

BTW, I'm not defending this, I'm simply asking a question. It does seem unconstitutional.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:18 pm to
I mean its not "illegal". But I'm pretty sure most departments have some sort of policy against it so as not to have to deal with the legal ramifications when an officer has a complaint filed against them from a person that said group has issues with. It would be a massive headache to the department from a legal and PR standpoint. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you.

There are plenty of things that aren't illegal to do but will get you fired if your employer finds out about because it is against their policies.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:19 pm to
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So you are telling me that a guy that believes in separatism cannot protect another race from a crime?

yes, and cops don't protect people from crime.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:22 pm to
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I mean its not "illegal". But I'm pretty sure most departments have some sort of policy against it so as not to have to deal with the legal ramifications when an officer has a complaint filed against them from a person that said group has issues with.

This. And it's not like it's just police departments. Most employers are going to have a problem with an employee openly associating with anything that could be construed (whether accurately or not)as a hate group.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Mordecai225
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:32 pm to
To protect and serve the public, which is made up of all the people hate groups hate. If you are apart of a hate group and you agree with their morals and values then there will be some sort of bias when doing your job. No other way around it. Would you want a female surgeon doing surgery on you if she genuinely hates men?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Is this the guy that is in trouble for "liking" a Proud Boys page?

That's one of the reasons that I quit Facebook. I just don't want to be scrutinized by my employer or a potential employer because I liked a distasteful meme or something like that. I deleted mine during the last presidential election.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:54 pm to
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That's one of the reasons that I quit Facebook. I just don't want to be scrutinized by my employer or a potential employer because I liked a distasteful meme or something like that. I deleted mine during the last presidential election.


Yep.

I just use it as an address book and occasionally like a baby picture.

As far as the OP's question, cops are the enforcement arm of the government. You can't afford to have people in that position who are openly prejudiced against any particular group.
Posted by JDogg33
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:55 pm to
I think the real concern is what groups get classified as "hate groups". Some White Aryan Nation Brotherhood etc sure. But, if we listen to the SPLC etc soon traditional Conservative Groups could end up labeled "hate groups".
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:00 pm to
As a white man, I would prefer that a black cop who pulls me over is not a Black Panthers. And I can't speak for any black people, but I would imagine they would not be too thrilled if a white cop who pulls them over, isn't a KKK member.
Posted by keakar
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:04 pm to
look up the words impartial and objective in the dictionary and it answers that question for you
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:07 pm to
Ron Stallworth was a black cop who was a member of the KKK..
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