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Why aren't more girls in STEM?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:25 am
It would seem that if boys are the ones most prone to ADD/ADHD, they would be less predisposed to flourish in STEM classes and fields. If girls are more attentive in the formative years, why aren't they drawn to more lucrative fields?
Is it possibly because they learn differently? Or because they simply just aren't very good at it?
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Is it possibly because they learn differently? Or because they simply just aren't very good at it?
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Stanford University professor Jo Boaler clearly set out to write a thought-provoking piece on how to attract more women to science, technology, engineering and math. But somewhere along the way, she ended up ratifying some really interesting gender-normative stereotypes that no feminist will ever approve of. According to Boaler, there’s no such thing as a “math brain,” and humans of both, either, or every gender (there are, of course, more than 30 or something), should be able to grasp even mathematics that require deep thinking. But it turns out, women may process this type of information at a slower rate, so instructors, she says, should reduce their number of words per minute to below 100 – in other words, if you want women to absorb the basics of math, you need to speak to them more slowly. This doesn’t make women dumber, Boaler points out, it just means that math education isn’t optimized for the female brain. Where men might learn math just fine in “speed-driven” math classes, women might require the ability to connect with a “deeper understanding” of the subject.
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:25 am to PoundFoolish
The Patriarchy.
Duh.
Duh.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:26 am to PoundFoolish
Because many of them don't naturally gravitate towards STEM.
Because men and women are different even though we pretend we aren't.
Because men and women are different even though we pretend we aren't.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:28 am to PoundFoolish
Because most simply don't seem to enjoy it as much.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:29 am to PoundFoolish
If the S in STEM covers medicine, there are plenty of women that gravitate in that direction.
There weren't too many women in my engineering classes though.
There weren't too many women in my engineering classes though.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:29 am to Pecker
Pretty much what Pecker said.
People want to try so hard to ignore what is thoroughly embedded in our genetic makeup.
Call yourself what you want but at the end of the day you are still a man/woman and in rule of limitations of each gender.
People want to try so hard to ignore what is thoroughly embedded in our genetic makeup.
Call yourself what you want but at the end of the day you are still a man/woman and in rule of limitations of each gender.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:31 am to LNCHBOX
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If the S in STEM covers medicine, there are plenty of women that gravitate in that direction.
It doesn't cover nursing, LNCHBOX, or medicine in general.
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Nursing is an applied field, not necessarily focused on the fundamentals of physical sciences. No pure science research, no STEM designation.
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medicine would not fully fall under the STEM category but it does involve some of its components/fields of study in it.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:34 am to PoundFoolish
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A new survey commissioned by Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30) found that young girls in Europe become interested in so-called STEM subjects around the age of 11 and then quickly lose interest when they're 15. "Conformity to social expectations, gender stereotypes, gender roles and lack of role models continue to channel girls' career choices away from STEM fields," said psychology professor Martin Bauer of the London School of Economics, who helped coordinate the survey of 11,500 girls across 12 European countries.
Another interesting article
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:36 am to PoundFoolish
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Is it possibly because they learn differently? Or because they simply just aren't very good at it?
I have no idea if either of these points hold merit, but some of the smartest people I work with in a STEM field are women.
In my classes in school, it was clear women self selected out of STEM fields, even if they were capable.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:37 am to Bmath
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Another interesting article
Yeah, it's just more evidence of basic differences between the sexes. There have been so many of these surveys and studies on why there aren't more women in STEM and the results are obvious.
Of course there are women capable of excelling in STEM fields. I did CE at UT and some of the hardest workers and "smartest" in my classes were girls. There were usually only 2-3 of them though. But many girls simply don't have the desire to enter into STEM fields. And it's not because someone is standing at the doorway to the classes trying to keep them out.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:39 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:37 am to PoundFoolish
Because they are in MRS
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:38 am to PoundFoolish
Because men have larger brains than women.
It's a scientific fact
It's a scientific fact
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:39 am to PoundFoolish
The truth is that most girls decide they don't like math or that they are not good at math. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Women aren't being excluded from STEM, they are avoiding it because it doesn't interest them.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:40 am to TulaneFan
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Because men have larger brains than women.
It's a scientific fact
Yes, but that doesn't prevent women from going into the fields.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:43 am to PoundFoolish
They aren't suckers enough to study that hard for low paying jobs. People don't go into STEM because there're much easier ways to make money. Engineering, math, science degrees...as much as everyone focuses on the need to have graduates, no one pays. It should be supply and demand, like every other profession, but hell no...we'll just give those company's visas and they can pay foreigners shite pay...why pay a smart American?
At any company the guys/gals doing the hard math/science/physics work are some of the lowest paid people. Project managers, sales...pretty much everyone gets paid more.
At any company the guys/gals doing the hard math/science/physics work are some of the lowest paid people. Project managers, sales...pretty much everyone gets paid more.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:44 am to PoundFoolish
i believe women choosing not to get STEM educations is a beautiful symbol of their cultural choices, like women wearing the hijab
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:45 am to PoundFoolish
Their brains are smaller. It's a scientific fact.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:50 am to David Crockett
for a more serious post, i do believe the theory of IQ distribution where men's IQs are more polar and women's IQ are more centered with fewer on the poles. that means you find an exponentially larger amount of male geniuses and completely stupid males (which also explains why men are so over-represented in the criminal justice system, esp for crimes of violence)
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:50 am to PoundFoolish
If the SM part stands for "sandwich making" then we should encourage women to study in this field
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:51 am to PoundFoolish
Because it's much harder than getting the coveted Mrs. degree.
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