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re: Why are private school teachers paid less than public ones in LA?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:41 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:41 pm to fallguy_1978
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Some are willing to work for less to not have to teach in public schools. Many also let teacher's kids attend at a discounted rate.
It seems like a good job to have only in very specific conditions.
1. You have a spouse who makes the big money.
2. You really love teaching and want a controlled atmosphere. You don't care about pay.
3. No public school will accept you.
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:42 pm to volod
The same reason that private practice nurses make less than nurses working in hospitals. They have much better working conditions and they don't have to recruit because people will take those jobs for less pay.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:42 pm to volod
My wife was making more working in New Orleans East than her friend with more experience did at Lusher. The difference? Her friend didn't have to routinely chase kids down Hayne Blvd.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:52 pm to BallsEleven
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Florida, my wife made $10,000 less in a top 3 school district in the state. The money paid to teachers has nothing to do with how well kids will do in school.
Teacher pay in public schools has less to do with performance and more to do with state funding and job competition. For what a public teacher makes, you could easily make that much or more working low level private industry.
It's never been about performance.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:00 pm to volod
My wife teaches at a small private school. We get a small discount on our tuition. However, because I am a business owner it really helps on the health insurance.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:07 pm to volod
supply and demand. No one would choose to work at an LA public school if the pay/benefits were the same as private.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:25 pm to volod
Because at Private Schools, both parents are at home teaching the kids. At public schools the teachers have to do all the teaching.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:31 pm to volod
Not sure about Charter Schools, But I can tell you private school teachers get a certain sense of satisfaction knowing they're appreciated by parents and supported by the administration. They usually have input in the curriculum and discipline is not much of a problem. Discounted tuition is being phased out as it is not really fair to other teachers without school age children, and causes the full paying families to subsidize the teachers' children. Pay in many Episcopal schools is at or above the local average public school salaries.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:33 pm to Texas ellessu
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Pay in many Episcopal schools is at or above the local average public school salaries.
I think the biggest difference is benefits.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:37 pm to Texas ellessu
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Pay in many Episcopal schools is at or above the local average public school salaries.
Not here.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:40 pm to lsu13lsu
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I think the biggest difference is benefits.
Maybe so. The private schools I am familiar with have health and matching contribution to 401K. I suspect Louisiana's retirement fund will be insolvent soon. Good point you make, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:41 pm to WhoGeaux
My ex was a private school principal. The teachers got a huge tuition cut for their children. Most of the teachers were former students. The tuition rate was a constant debate, based on how much could they charge before affecting enrollment.
As they increased tuition even a little they would see enrollment drop and parents sending their children to public schools.
So I think they pay as much as they can and still survive.
As they increased tuition even a little they would see enrollment drop and parents sending their children to public schools.
So I think they pay as much as they can and still survive.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:42 pm to volod
Education and health care are two things that should not be for a profit.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:42 pm to volod
I don’t think private school teachers have to have the qualifications that public school teachers do hence the corruption.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:50 pm to BabyTac
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I don’t think private school teachers have to have the qualifications that public school teachers do hence the corruption.
Qualifications? If you mean graduating self defense class then you are correct.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:50 pm to volod
Because the jobs and students are more desirable.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:02 pm to volod
Most Charter Schools are taking brand new teachers with very little to no experience. Many also are hiring teachers who are in their drop years and just looking for a relaxed and easy environment. At many charter/private schools you don't have the drama that you do at public schools. Nor do they have the interference from the school districts or other individuals who essentially hold back some teachers.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:10 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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My ex was a private school principal. The teachers got a huge tuition cut for their children. Most of the teachers were former students. The tuition rate was a constant debate, based on how much could they charge before affecting enrollment. As they increased tuition even a little they would see enrollment drop and parents sending their children to public schools. So I think they pay as much as they can and still survive.
I worked at an independent school for five years last decade. GREAT educational institution, their curriculum was more advanced than most Catholic schools, the expectation was there from both parents and the school for this. Even the less motivated students still got into decent schools.
But let one family get upset and leave, or let one family get transferred by Royal Dutch/Shell or whatever, and the school is in deep trouble. Unfortunately, they were a youngish school, maybe 50 or so years old, and endowment was small. Budget was driven by tuition.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:26 pm to volod
Easily answered........taxpayers don't foot the vast majority of the bill for private school teachers so there is only so much they can earn, in regards to salary. If public school wants to pay a teacher a little more, just pass a tax on the backs of the community. It's for education so I am sure it's money well spent.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:38 pm to volod
There is such differences within the private school market.
A school like Newman pays teachers better than a school like Rigdewood.
Your top notch private and Catholic schools charge a lot of tuition, have highly talented teachers who they pay very well, and are strong academic schools.
Most of your average private and catholic schools are full of teachers that can't pass the praxis, don't get paid worth a crap, and are pretty terrible academically.
But hey, you get to avoid the "undeseriables" so that's good, I guess.
I know several ladies that teach in really pathetic catholic elementary schools. They get paid about 20K a year, but get free tuition. One of them has 3 kids in the school, the free tuition is worth just about as much as the salary, especially since they don't pay taxes on the free tuition value. She has tried to pass the praxis, can't, and constantly talks about how much better "her students" are compared to those thug public kids. She also sells about 4 different MLM schemes.
A school like Newman pays teachers better than a school like Rigdewood.
Your top notch private and Catholic schools charge a lot of tuition, have highly talented teachers who they pay very well, and are strong academic schools.
Most of your average private and catholic schools are full of teachers that can't pass the praxis, don't get paid worth a crap, and are pretty terrible academically.
But hey, you get to avoid the "undeseriables" so that's good, I guess.
I know several ladies that teach in really pathetic catholic elementary schools. They get paid about 20K a year, but get free tuition. One of them has 3 kids in the school, the free tuition is worth just about as much as the salary, especially since they don't pay taxes on the free tuition value. She has tried to pass the praxis, can't, and constantly talks about how much better "her students" are compared to those thug public kids. She also sells about 4 different MLM schemes.
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