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re: Why are private school teachers paid less than public ones in LA?

Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:12 am to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:12 am to
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Because the private school is a lot better school


Agreed. But the question remains as to whether it's worth being a private school teacher vs a public school teacher.

Unless the students are particularly violent or rowdy, a public educator gets the same pay regardless. So you're going to have an easier job as a private teacher in excellent for less pay.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:20 am to
It's not just about not having to deal with bad kids. A public school teacher has a lot of red tape and paperwork pushed on them from the school boards/state.

At a good private school, the parents are always ready to come help out and are supportive of the teachers.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:21 am to
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Education and health care are two things that should not be for a profit.


How is it your business how I spend my money.

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:24 am to
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How is it your business how I spend my money.


I think they are referring to all kids should have access to quality education and everyone should have access to quality care without worrying if they will be able to afford it.

We treat healthcare and education as luxuries when in reality they are the cornerstone of our civilization. An uneducated populace leads to a lower quality of life for everybody.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:25 am to
ban bait
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5918 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:29 am to
The reasons I’ve seen it as a financial advisor-

1. Church takes advantage of them for teaching the Christian way of life

2. Spouses are frequently high income earners and teachers retire very early

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17827 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:52 am to
We all know why.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:53 am to
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all kids should have access to quality education


They all do have access. It's just that the parents in some areas don't believe in raising their kids correctly to allow for a school to do it's job.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17827 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:56 am to
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Education and health care are two things that should not be for a profit.


Which means you want it in the hands of the government.

Take a look at which country leads the way in innovation in regards to healthcare.

United States (private industry)

Take a look at which school helps our kids to be better prepared for college and the workforce.

Private schools (private industry)
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39155 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:58 am to
Less funding for private schools than public.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:22 pm to
I know why I pay for my kids to go to private school.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41055 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:55 pm to
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The teacher who took that private school job so that their child/children could go to private school at a reduced rate (still paying) could just work a regular job and send their child/children to public school (which they already pay for). Why is that?



1) Because they can't pass the certification tests?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Take a look at which school helps our kids to be better prepared for college and the workforce.

Private schools (private industry)


I think you should take this one with a grain of salt. It depends on what the criteria of entry is. If it's just $$$ many private schools will only offer a religious based education that isn't necessarily better than public.

Even some of the posters on here admit that in many cases it's to avoid "undesirables" and not necessarily top tier education.

Now selective admissions schools are much better in that regard.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41055 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Agreed. But the question remains as to whether it's worth being a private school teacher vs a public school teacher.

Unless the students are particularly violent or rowdy, a public educator gets the same pay regardless. So you're going to have an easier job as a private teacher in excellent for less pay.


The O-T likes to work in extremes.

All private schools are better than all public schools

All public schools have major discipline problems / require hazard pay, etc

The reality is you have good and bad public schools and good and bad private schools.

And then you have what I often see in places like Orleans, Jefferson, and St. Bernard

1) General roudiness and misbehavior and crappy TFA teachers in the regular public school classes

2) Great behavior and great, experienced teachers in the honors public school classes

3) Much fewer general roudiness and misbehavior in the private schools

4) Much more drugs in the private / parochial high schools

5) Great academic teaching in the best private / parochial schools (Jesuit / Mt Carmel / Brother Martin / Dominican / St Ann / St Dominic / Newman / etc

6) Terrible academic teaching in the average / remainder of private / parochial schools

7) Much smaller classes in the private / parochial schools - some kids thrive on this, some don't
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41055 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Even some of the posters on here admit that in many cases it's to avoid "undesirables" and not necessarily top tier education.


FACTS:

1) A kid will get a much better education at Thomas Jefferson or Haynes, then they will at Rummel or Curtis

2) A kid will get an equal education at Jesuit, compared to Thomas Jefferson or Haynes.

3) A kid will get better access to college counseling at Jesuit, and will of course get religious education. Is that worth the 10K a year compared to going to Haynes or Thomas Jefferson?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41055 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
I saw a post on the book of faces yesterday, that was praising her son's catholic elementary school. Kid is in second grade.

Parent, after writing about how happy she is with the school, wrote, "I love how you are preparing my son to follow in his father's footsteps and attend Holy Cross."

Now, I have nothing against Holy Cross, it's a fine school.

But why is she pushing that her kid, in second grade, she knows or will be forced to attend Holy Cross?

It's just weird.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:10 pm to
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LSUFanHouston


The general theme I've always noticed in real life is that the only best schools are: magnet high schools for public and top shelf private schools. Basically what you acknowledged.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:10 pm to
I don't know why this was a reply to me nor do I have any idea what Holy Cross is.

I am not here to debate the pros and cons just offering my input because I have experience with the subject.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:14 pm to
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FACTS


I have nothing against private schools. You're blessed if you or your children get to go because not everyone has that opportunity.

My only concern is that in many cases I don't see where they justify their cost if people aren't going to be prepared for rigorous college programs. I understand religion is important but I'm ambivalent towards it being in the classroom.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:16 pm to
It's not just Louisiana. It's the same in Virginia.
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