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re: Who remembers that TOTALLY legit bust and murder by cop in Houston?

Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:03 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:03 am to
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So one incident is a reason not to "back the blue"?




I wonder what has a higher ratio - peaceful Muslims to terrorists or police officers to criminals?

Point being, the minority often dictates the narrative of the entire group, especially when the majority is often silent on the issues.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61618 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:05 am to
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feel bad for the victims, victims families, and officer's families whose dad/husband will be going to jail. BUT, if you are innocent and the police invade your home, you put your hands up and let them sort things out. These 2 "victims" fired upon police officers, whether the police should have been there, or not. That is what got them killed. Not the crooked cops lying. Not the incorrect information from the informant. Not sloppy police work. When you shoot at the police, it will not end well for you.


if someone breaks into your house and you don’t shoot them because you think they might be cops, you’re a huge pussy
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:05 am to
why did they want to raid this particular house to badly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:10 am to
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What was the reason for that Garcia bitch across the street to make up all of this shite?

probably a narc or got better treatment from the cops for doing them favors
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:15 am to
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Get a load of this moron.

The cops were in plain clothes and broke into an innocent man's house and shot his dog almost immediately.

Gtfo with this comply or die bullshite.


I agree, it's bull shite, but what can you honestly do? If you fire back they just keep coming, if you comply they find some b.s. charges.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21436 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:15 am to
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Point being, the minority often dictates the narrative of the entire group, especially when the majority is often silent on the issues.

I mean their boss still calls them heroes and their union head is threatening the public who speaks out against this. It's not a minority and this shite is systemic and widespread.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:16 am to
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if you comply they find some b.s. charges.

i imagine the drugs the cop illegally had in his car would have become the focus of their charges
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61618 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:17 am to
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I agree, it's bull shite, but what can you honestly do?
Death penalty for cops who are involved in these situations would be a good start
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:19 am to
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i imagine the drugs the cop illegally had in his car would have become the focus of their charges


The only solution I can think of is a top of the line security system with HD zoom capabilities. Maybe you can catch the planting the evidence.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:20 am to
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I feel bad for the victims, victims families, and officer's families whose dad/husband will be going to jail. BUT, if you are innocent and the police invade your home, you put your hands up and let them sort things out. These 2 "victims" fired upon police officers, whether the police should have been there, or not. That is what got them killed. Not the crooked cops lying. Not the incorrect information from the informant. Not sloppy police work. When you shoot at the police, it will not end well for you.




ballsy take for a thread about cops murdering innocent civilians
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:21 am to
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Death penalty for cops who are involved in these situations would be a good start


I don't know if that would deter the type of person that would do this and if they know they will face the death penalty, maybe they execute all witnesses and plant guns.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57392 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:22 am to
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why did they want to raid this particular house to badly?



someone pointed out earlier in this thread that it very well could have been a mixup of addresses, and this house just happened to be the lucky recipient of the mixup.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:24 am to
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someone pointed out earlier in this thread that it very well could have been a mixup of addresses, and this house just happened to be the lucky recipient of the mixup.

even then though, why THAT house? it was all bullshite so they targeted the house for some reason

maybe the other one is a legit drug house that they couldn't get PC for, i guess
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:28 am to
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but what can you honestly do? If you fire back they just keep coming, if you comply they find some b.s. charges.


I agree. The solution isn't what you do at your house, it's what society does to hold these shitbag cops accountable.

If these people weren't murdered, but killed one of the cops and were somehow taken alive, they'd face capital murder charges and be sentenced to death. The same should apply to these cops.

They fabricated evidence in order to serve a no knock, plain clothes warrant at the home of 2 completely innocent people and murdered them for...reasons.

Until these cops lose their shield of the union and are regularly prosecuted to the fullest extent like the criminals they are, it won't matter what you do in your home if this happens.

But it's not an easy fix. It's a complete overhaul of the system. You have to up the hiring standards and screening processes, but in order to do that, you need to up the starting pay to attract the right candidates.

In the meantime, law abiding citizens just have to hope a guy with a gun and a high school diploma doesn't make a life ending mistake.
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:28 am to
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someone pointed out earlier in this thread that it very well could have been a mixup of addresses, and this house just happened to be the lucky recipient of the mixup.


Whatever house they were planning to go to they still fabricated a CI and a false positive drug test for heroin in the warrant in order to justify a no knock
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:30 am to
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one incident is a reason not to "back the blue


This thread has potential
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67260 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:31 am to
Hummmm....wonder why there is lack of national outrage and virtue signaling facebook and twitter posts about this?
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61618 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:32 am to
Yeah, it’s a tough
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108755 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:32 am to
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these cops were found to have drugs in their units they couldn't account for

so either they were using drugs they didn't account for from previous busts or were planting drugs on innocent people

they invented CIs and had other snitches call in phone complaints to create the reasoning for busts

these guys are like Alonzo from Training Day but (1) real and (2) worse


Absjtely correct and their will be many more cases they were involved in thrown out or reversed.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151608 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:33 am to
All involved need to spend a couple decades in arse rape prison
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