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re: Who remembers that TOTALLY legit bust and murder by cop in Houston?

Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:34 am to
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These 2 "victims" fired upon police officers, whether the police should have been there, or not. That is what got them killed. Not the crooked cops lying. Not the incorrect information from the informant. Not sloppy police work. When you shoot at the police, it will not end well for you.


Oh wow. This thread is delivering.

So its ok to shoot someone invading your house illegally.

But if someone with a badge does it illegally you lose your right of self defense?

Thats a bold assertion.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61618 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:34 am to
Maybe we need to make no-knock warrants much, much harder to come by

As in, only for terrorism threats, saving kidnapped babies,
Etc.

Police getting in shootouts over a half oz of H is silly
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:34 am to
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someone pointed out earlier in this thread that it very well could have been a mixup of addresses, and this house just happened to be the lucky recipient of the mixup.



but that still leaves a house in the mix that had bullshite warrants made for it
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:35 am to
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Maybe we need to make no-knock warrants much, much harder to come by


Unfortunately exigency is easily manufactured. :Won't someone think of the children?:
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42794 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:36 am to
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and he was going on pure emotion and had no access to the real facts of what happened.


So shut your mouth and wait for facts. Why is this so damn hard?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:37 am to
For sure, but you better have stone cold, iron clad evidence to get it too.

Too much risk with these no knocks, and it's absurd to do it looking for fricking dope.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18053 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:38 am to
That whole display was cringeworthy.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57392 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:43 am to
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Whatever house they were planning to go to they still fabricated a CI and a false positive drug test for heroin in the warrant in order to justify a no knock



Absolutely, and furthermore, if you are doing something as treacherous as raiding a drug house, how could you possibly frick up something as simple as the address??

And I see now that you are asking about the reason for the raid on the correct house. Sorry, I was confused.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:45 am to
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how could you possibly frick up something as simple as the address??


there is a somewhat local story where some cops just got the wrong address (in the country no less) and fricking murdered a family's dog

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO THEM
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:47 am to
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no knock, plain clothes


You pay your money, you take your chances. You break into a house like a criminal, I have no problem with you getting shot like a criminal.

Cops are way ahead in wrongful/mistaken shootings. The citizen is much more likely to wind up on the short end of police encounters.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:47 am to
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So one incident is a reason not to "back the blue"?


Who "backs the blue?" It's a silly propaganda campaign. Cops are no different than any profession
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63759 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:49 am to
They’ve had to basically go back on everything Goines investigated because they found this was far from the first time he had falsified a bunch of info in a warrant. He should rot for the rest of his life in prison
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:51 am to
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These 2 "victims" fired upon police officers, whether the police should have been there, or not. That is what got them killed.


They fired on armed people breaking into their house, like millions of other homeowners would do.

Police do not protect you in your home. They show up later and write reports, unless they are the intruder as in his case.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:53 am to
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They’ve had to basically go back on everything Goines investigated because they found this was far from the first time he had falsified a bunch of info in a warrant. He should rot for the rest of his life in prison

that's why the whole "one incident" meme is lol-worthy
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:04 am to
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Cops are way ahead in wrongful/mistaken shootings. The citizen is much more likely to wind up on the short end of police encounters.


Yeah, and if they're "lucky" and survive it, they're on the hook for killing a police officer.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:11 am to
Randy Webster
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98842 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:18 am to
Did we ever figure out why they targeted that specific house anyway? Those cops are fricked.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40826 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:24 am to
Glad to see this thread get posted. This story shouldn't go away. The cops murdered two people
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18173 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:55 am to
What’s funny is that this didn’t make national news. I wonder why?

Skin color maybe?

Also, no protest, no calling for the killing of cops.

It’s almost like some people are permanent children.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67260 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:15 pm to
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What’s funny is that this didn’t make national news. I wonder why? Skin color maybe? Also, no protest, no calling for the killing of cops. It’s almost like some people are permanent children.


There’s more outrage in Texas for some serial rapist being put to death than this botched raid case
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 12:16 pm
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