re: WHO: Masks should only be worn by healthy people when caring for covid patients

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Use the basics on why medical staff wear masks while doing surgery.

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Because they are trained, and they are hovering within a foot of a patients face at times for hours on end.....Not to mention how close the instrumentation gets to their face that they then put inside someones body.....

Dont know how you and your co-workers are, but that isnt really something we do in our office setting....

Comparing surgeons to everyday people in public is such an interesting argument. Surgeons also wear gowns and caps. Should we wear those too?

I just think using surgeons isnt the best course of action to convice me or others on wearing a mask

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Comparing surgeons to everyday people in public is such an interesting argument. Surgeons also wear gowns and caps. Should we wear those too?

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Isn't that more about a sterile environment? Prevent things like your hair falling into an open abdomen and such.

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Because they are trained,

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This the key part. PPE is effective when used correctly, by people trained to use it correctly.

Your average Joe Public isn't trained to use it correctly, and doesn't use it correctly.

*puts on the same mask he's been wearing for two months*

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Isn't that more about a sterile environment? Prevent things like your hair falling into an open abdomen and such.

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Yes

And wearing the mask is more about infecting the instruments, open wounds in patient, and patients open body from splashing in their mouth....

We're all gonna have whiplash from all this back and forth.

To be honest, before covid, the worth of surgical masks for actual surgeons wasnt even sure

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WHEN introduced a century ago, the purpose of the surgical facemask was to provide protection for the patient from surgical wound infections. But is there evidence that face masks prevent wound infections? A recent review concluded that it is not clear whether face masks prevent surgical wound infections,1 and the scientific evidence for this practice is weak and insufficient.1,2 Questioning the efficacy of surgical face masks, an established routine in operating rooms worldwide, is clearly controversial given the tradition of the practice. Recognizing the lack of sound scientific evidence, we have changed facemask routines in several units at the Karolinska University Hospital (see image by Henrik Jörnvall, M.D., Ph.D., Department of Anesthesia, Surgical Sciences and Intensive Care, Karolinska University Hospital Solna, Stockholm, Sweden).


Anesthesia personnel are no longer required to wear disposable face masks in the operating room, a practice approved by our surgical colleagues. Surgeons, their assistants, and scrub nurses are still required to wear masks.

Face masks are worn by all operating room personnel when treating patients susceptible to infections as in neurosurgery, vascular, and orthopedic procedures involving implants and regional anesthesia procedures (e.g. , spinal or epidural). Face masks are also used to protect staff from contamination. All personnel wear face masks when taking care of trauma patients or patients with blood-borne infections.


Our decision to no longer require routine surgical masks for personnel not scrubbed for surgery is a departure from common practice. But the evidence to support this practice does not exist, and studies to establish differences in infection rates with or without face masks will likely be difficult to design and implement given the small potential effect.

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I am not believing WHO.....

WHO just happens to have the same opinion as me on this particular subject

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Interesting way to spin it.

It's okay to say they flip flop, but you agree with them now. I don't know what you have to gain by pretending otherwise.

I'm tired of wearing masks into stores. I can't take out my contacts and wear glasses if my eyes hurt because they'll fog up. It's annoying af.

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I'm tired of wearing masks into stores

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I am assuming your job makes you for sales calls?

NY Post isn’t liberal, dumbass.

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NY Post isn’t liberal, dumbass.

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Ok