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re: WHO lauds Sweden as a model for countries going forward in the fight against COVID-19

Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:20 am to
Yeah but if Sweden achieved herd immunity I'd expect their numbers to plateau and the other country's deaths to raise as time goes on. Time will tell.
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:21 am to
Ok
Eta:
what he said:
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Yeah but if Sweden achieved herd immunity I'd expect their numbers to plateau and the other country's deaths to raise as time goes on. Time will tell.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 7:23 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:21 am to
You think that is some kind of gotcha?

The point of Sweden's strategy is to get this thing over with sooner than later, preferably before flu season starts back up. Of course they have higher deaths right now.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:28 am to
For you dildos that think no one is at the restaurants in Sweden because they are all socially distancing, here is a picture from a bar in Stockholm on April 8:

Posted by LSUfanGuy13
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:30 am to
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a picture
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April 8


Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:30 am to
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You think that is some kind of gotcha

Is that information not relevant when discussing their strategy of dealing with the virus?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:31 am to
You were cowering in your mom's basement on April 8, and those people were enjoying their lives.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:32 am to
unfortunately our POTUS disagrees...

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Despite reports to the contrary, Sweden is paying heavily for its decision not to lockdown. As of today, 2462 people have died there, a much higher number than the neighboring countries of Norway (207), Finland (206) or Denmark (443). The United States made the correct decision!
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:32 am to
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You think that is some kind of gotcha?


It’s just an infographic on similar countries in the region.

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The point of Sweden's strategy is to get this thing over with sooner than later, preferably before flu season starts back up. Of course they have higher deaths right now.


Natural Herd immunity is going to take a bit of time for them just like vaccines. They are not handling the actual infections well in comparison.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:32 am to
You doomers have to be aware that the lockdowns will push a second peak during flu season, right?

The more who get it now, the less will get it during flu season.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 7:34 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:33 am to
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They used common sense and trusted their people instead of choosing to live in fear for 2-3 months straight.


First off, their culture is different and their population isn't full of dolts like the American public.

Also, things aren't much different there than here. Everyone is social distancing, there are rules, police are getting involved in some cases, etc. Places are pretty much empty.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:34 am to
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Also, things aren't much different there than here. Everyone is social distancing, there are rules, police are getting involved in some cases, etc. Places are pretty much empty.
Did you see the picture I posted from Stockholm, LOL?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:34 am to
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You doomers have to be aware that the lockdowns will push a second peak during flu season, right?


the 2nd peak will almost assuredly happen as we begin to open things back up, probably early summer

its going to come back in the fall no matter what we do, thats inevitable
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:36 am to
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Sweden is 80% towards herd immunity


Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:36 am to
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You doomers have to be aware that the lockdowns will push a second peak during flu season, right?


So because I think their death rate is relevant when discussing the WHO "lauding" their response I'm a "doomer"?
Posted by LSUfanGuy13
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:37 am to
I was working on April 8th and following the guidelines.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:40 am to
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The WHO played everyone.



Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:56 am to
I can't prove it one way or the other. But that picture 100% looks like it was staged. Like either something from a commercial or a movie.
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:10 am to
I'm not the best guy at math, so someone please help me if my math is way off. But going strictly off of the reported confirmed positives for this thing.

The US has a lil over a million positives for Covid19. So with our population of 330 million, that rounds out to about .3% of the population who has or had Covid19.

Sweden has about 21,000 confirmed positives for this. With a population of about 10 million, that rounds out to about .2%

Of course these #s are not completely accurate. Testing rates for the countries may be different. And we don't even know to what extent individuals may have caught it and may be asymptomatic. But even still, I fail to see how Sweden is sooo much closer to herd immunity than we are.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:16 am to
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c. But even still, I fail to see how Sweden is sooo much closer to herd immunity than we are.


They arent, since herd immunity requires a large portion of the population(60-80% with covid) to be immune.
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