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re: Who here is against St George?

Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:07 pm to
They don't.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:08 pm to
Like I said in it last week, I'm out.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4397 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:09 pm to
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It's been happening like that for decades. Don't go all conspiracy theory paranoid on us.....


I was going to comment about mutual aid, those with BRPD that hold Parish commissions, and all the work that they conduct outside of the city to assist EBRSO, but you nailed it.

As for the original question, I am against SG incorporating.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:10 pm to
I didn't catch that. What happened?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:11 pm to
Go read pages 570 & 571. You were there.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:17 pm to
Alright man. I'll miss your insights. I hope I didn't have anything to do with it.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288161 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:17 pm to
awww poor baby
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:23 pm to
I see you're still butthurt.
Posted by detective barnaby
Member since Jan 2014
29 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:52 pm to
i live in the proposed area and am undecided.

the biggest things that upset me about the whole ordeal are:

A) you have a community crying out for better education and the leaders' response has basically been a collective "frick off" through their words an actions. The whole incorporation effort is like a teenager emotionally lashing out...the emotions are genuine, the methodology may not be the best conceived. The parish government, instead of being the bigger man/parent figure trying to truly address issues and throw the teenager a few bones to make it feel important, has instead chosen to scream back and lowered themselves potentially beyond that of the teenager.

B) the "better together" baton rouge crowd who would rather sink the entire titanic without letting any lifeboats (in the form of better education initiatives and alternatives) go and seek calmer waters screaming racism and income inequality all the way.

I suspect the trend outlined in the paper a few days ago will continue: more people leaving for several neighboring parishes than arriving from them. People have seen school system reforms work on a small scale in neighboring EBR parish entities, and on a larger scale down I-10 in NO through the charter revolution. No solution is perfect silver bullet, but simply seeing surrounding areas trying new things has rendered EBRs bullshite unacceptable.

I am about to have my first kid and if still living in BR in a few years either plan to move to one of the other neighboring school districts or take the private school path...not leaving my kids chances of getting into an acceptable school up to lotteries.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:03 am to
You don't appear to be undecided.

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you have a community crying out for better education and the leaders' response has basically been a collective "frick off" through their words an actions
What regarding education has SG cried out for that they didn't get or are not in the process of getting? They've had 3 new schools built in their area in the last 4 years and when Lee High is fully reopened next school year it will take a chunk of the Gardere area HS students off of Woodlawn & Tara.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:09 am to
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I suspect the trend outlined in the paper a few days ago will continue: more people leaving for several neighboring parishes than arriving from them.


You clearly read the headline and stopped. The article stated two key points:

1. The loss of EBR population came from the 2007 year, of which Katrina evacuees were still relocating.

2. EBR has seen significant gains in high-income earners. Those leaving the parish were in HHI below the average and those entering the parish were in HHI greater than $100k.

Posted by detective barnaby
Member since Jan 2014
29 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:21 am to
For me newer buildings =\= better school system. I want to see 5-10 consecutive years of substantial gains in math, reading comprehension, and sciences. I want to see the average school rating of an A or B, not a C or D while maintaining the current system funding levels. I don't subscribe to the belief that dumping more money into schools is the universal answer. Hence, I am undecided. I want to see the anti at George crowd propose ways to raise the education level that don't include an utterance of "we need more money" or "your plan is flawed." If it's flawed or undeveloped, what's a better plan? Let's hear some policy ideas. As I've said, let the anti St. George crowd propose some positive course corrections rather than 100% focusing on flaws of what are undoubtedly an undeveloped St George proposal. I think it would diffuse the tension all around.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104245 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:11 am to
Don't really give a shite, but the bourgeoise of Baton Rouge are for it, so I'm against it just to agitate them.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14498 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:00 am to
I am against it and have lived in the proposed SG city since 1991.
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:46 am to
I'm for Baton Rouge invading everything that would be St. George, blitzkrieg style. Then rounding up all the people who advocated St. George and putting them in re-education camps.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:58 am to
Im against it until proven otherwise. I relocated here to get away from political corruption and leaders running the community into the ground. When both sides start pointing fingers and calling the others the bad guys, everyone loses.

Ive said this a million times, everyone that I have asked "why?", their response has been "better school system". Its a very important thing but to me, there needs to be more to it. I dont think many people realize how expensive it is to run a municipal govt let alone create a startup. I also dont understand why a lot of people I know talk about sales tax (talking about Mall of Louisiana), yet they also talk about how they never go, its going down hill, its the next Cortana, etc. There needs to be a better outlook on city income.

The problem we face now is that both sides are going to go to extremes for their cause. If they want it to ve rich vs poor, white vs black, etc... its going to happen. The mudslinging will begin soon if it already hasnt. Sadly for EBR, there will be a further decline before we see improvements no matter if we stay together or split.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:59 am to
Holy misinformation.

Those of you saying St.George property taxes would rise, and BR would turn to Detroit need a reality check.

Central has already proven that privatizing city services has saved them money. If St.George would bankrupt BR, then it sounds like we could build gold-plated schools with all of the money we'll be rolling in!

BR will be just fine. LSU pumps billions into the local economy.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:09 am to
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Those of you saying St.George property taxes would rise


I'd pay more for better schools. That's how things work in real life. Its much cheaper than normal property taxes + $10,000 a year for private school anyway
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43575 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:11 am to
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A part of me says St. George would serve the EBRP School Board right for its blind incompetence, but, I am a realist .. If BR loses SE BR, it will turn into a scaled down Detroit in the city limits .. So, in the end, I am against it ..


+1
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:14 am to
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I'm against it. I don't want my town split.


It won't be. That area is not Baton Rouge as I understand it. Just EBR. We already have 4 cities in this parish so the parish is pretty much split
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