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re: Which side are you on- Nurse or Dominos Pizza?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:28 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:28 pm to LNCHBOX
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The simple solution is for restaurants to clearly post a "last call" time. Until they do that though, you have to assume that the posted closing time is the last call time.
YES!
And dominoes is the oldest pizza delivery in business. It's their only model basically. They have thought of this and posted there OPEN times knowing that means pizzas.
Anyone thinking they know more than Domino's corporate decisions of closing times is simply dumb. They have covered this scenario thousands of times.
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:29 pm to KG6
No one is saying it is not part of the freaking job. This is the thing.....You walk up to a restaurant and you see that they close in five minutes. It goes through your head that they are probably trying to close up. You say to yourself frick it , I dont care it is their job, or you say to yourself I will just go somewhere else I dont want to have to make them stay an hour longer. You don't think option B is being more considerate than option A?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:30 pm to LouisianaLady
Bars have a legal responsibility to stop serving at 2. I actually think it's mostly college bars that actually kick you out. That's mostly due to the fact that at 2 a.m., nothing good is going to happen. At a much more laid back bar, they are going to let you finish your drink. That's why they call it Last Call and not get the frick out.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:32 pm to LouisianaLady
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What about any store in the mall? I've been kicked out of many stores as they lower the chain fence out front. I can't just be like, "No, I'm not done".
kicked out? or lowering the chains to keep the constant flow of NEW people out.
2 different things.
locking the front door <> putting chairs up and mopping under your feet while you're finishing your meal.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:33 pm to KG6
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. Every restaurant I've ever worked in was still tying up the loose ends after hours.
We know. You worked in 3 restaurants
I've worked in 1 restaurant and 2 bars too. I stayed late for customers plenty and was never all that pissed about it because I rarely had dick to do except go drink anyway. But as a CUSTOMER (a fantastic one at that), I think it is inconsiderate to walk in as a place is shutting down. I didn't say 30 minutes (though I don't do it).. I said as it is shutting down. Mere minutes. Especially if the place has no customers inside and employees are not already staying very late. I don't think the place should refuse service, but I still think it is inconsiderate. One does not exclude the other... I don't know why we are acting like that is the case.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:33 pm to GeeOH
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Tough shite. It's the business they chose.
Exactly. At least you are honest and say you dont give a shite whether you keep someone longer than otherwise. Wouldn't it be more considerate to not go to a place right when they close and not keep them longer though?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:34 pm to KG6
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Bars have a legal responsibility to stop serving at 2. I actually think it's mostly college bars that actually kick you out. That's mostly due to the fact that at 2 a.m., nothing good is going to happen. At a much more laid back bar, they are going to let you finish your drink. That's why they call it Last Call and not get the frick out.
I specifically wrote when we close at midnight because I knew you'd say this.
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kicked out? or lowering the chains to keep the constant flow of NEW people out. 2 different things.
Kicked out. I worked at Abercrombie/HCO in college. We routinely asked people to pay for what they've gotten when closing time came around. They were not allowed to just keep browsing and trying shite on. Few stores allow that. Closing time is closing time. Wrap up and make your way to the door.
Plus, labor laws come into play in these places with under 18 staff members.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:34 pm to LouisianaLady
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I stayed late for customers plenty and was never all that pissed about it because I rarely had dick to do except go drink anyway.
thats pretty much all restaurant workers do afterward.
i think its a law. and i'll add my 2 cents..there is PLENTY TO DO to shut down a restaurant after closing that does NOT involve the passive-aggressive banging of pots and pans and mopping your table into a corner.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:36 pm to mouton
Why are you harping on this sit down restaurant example? Has nothing to do with the OP. The Dominos employee was very obviously in the wrong.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:36 pm to LouisianaLady
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mean, if we are being as technical as some of you people want to be, the pizza place could have taken the order and then stopped working on it 5 minutes later (stopped cooking it mid-cook, not delivered it, etc.) because they had technically closed by that time.
Being open is saying "we are still here to serve". A place like a pizza joint should set at time in which they stop taking order. If they close at 11PM then stop taking orders at 10:45PM so that the last 15 mins allows the workers to complete orders that came in before that time. It might be rude as hell, but if they close at 11PM, there will be people who decides they want pizza, look at the clock, see its 10:55PM & say "we have to hurry up and call, they close in 5 mins".
In theory, you would think people would have some common courtesy, but in general people don't so thats why I think they should set a time, before closing, in which they stop taking orders.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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The Dominos employee was very obviously in the wrong.
THE END.
nurse whining for free pizza aside, that was incredibly rude and if that was my franchise i'd fire them on the spot.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:37 pm to mouton
I understand what you are saying. But you cannot make your decision based purely on that. If I know somewhere else is open later and I'd rather do that, then I may make that decision. But if I'm out of my car and don't see the operating hours until I'm opening the door, no it's not an issue.
I mean are you not going to order a steak in the middle of the day because it's easier for them to make a burger? Are you not going to ask for a refill, because they'd have to walk to the back. It is not inconsiderate to ask someone to do their job. I said it a few posts earlier. You can keep having the argument until you are shutting down 10 hours earlier. I've been the service employee and I've spent a lot of time around them. They all want to get tips and knock off as early as possible. You give them and inch, they'll want more. The times are set, why can we not work with them???
I mean are you not going to order a steak in the middle of the day because it's easier for them to make a burger? Are you not going to ask for a refill, because they'd have to walk to the back. It is not inconsiderate to ask someone to do their job. I said it a few posts earlier. You can keep having the argument until you are shutting down 10 hours earlier. I've been the service employee and I've spent a lot of time around them. They all want to get tips and knock off as early as possible. You give them and inch, they'll want more. The times are set, why can we not work with them???
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:38 pm to klsu24
I fail to see where the note is rude.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:39 pm to CAD703X
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nurse whining for free pizza aside, that was incredibly rude and if that was my franchise i'd fire them on the spot.
FWIW, I wouldn't be okay with it either if I was a manager. It isn't the employee's job to teach the customer how to be considerate.
This is why now that I'm not in the service industry, I've interrupted many people in restaurants/store when tehy're being rude to an employee and embarrassed them.
Did it to some 60something year old jerk at Sammy's last week
Felt fantastic and I hope he cried on the way home.This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:41 pm to chryso
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I fail to see where the note is rude.
the only context where that note could be justified is if the nurse does the same thing night after night.
in that case, the nurse is trying to provoke a response much like these idiots who antagonize cops when they are pulled over and record it.
i would never think twice about a hospital ordering food 5 minutes to closing because i'd assume they were busy and didn't get a chance to order food until the last minute...in fact i'd probably be the employee offering to drop it off on my way home.
shaking my head at the entitled 'workers' of today.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:42 pm to LouisianaLady
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Did it to some 60something year old jerk at Sammy's last week Felt fantastic and I hope he cried on the way home.
lol.. What did you tell them? Old people in general, are rude.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:43 pm to OweO
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Old people in general, are rude.
theyve earned the right to give zero fricks
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:44 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:no, like in arse hole? Would that be the way to frame it in a sentence?
have you gone your adult life without hearing the term 'arse' before?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:45 pm to LouisianaLady
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Kicked out. I worked at Abercrombie/HCO in college. We routinely asked people to pay for what they've gotten when closing time came around. They
And that's totally up to each business. If Domino's put in that policy as a business, then I'd be perfectly fine with them saying, no we aren't serving you. But if they know it takes 14 minutes to cook a pizza, why wouldn't their closing time be 14 minutes earlier?
This ties in to your "being considerate" argument. The business has made the decision to accept customers to that point. That's up to the owners and managers. The employee is expected to stay to that time plus whatever time it takes to finish up remaining tables. I'm not saying it's the nicest thing you can do for the person, but to say it's inconsiderate, to me, infers that you consciously made the decision to put a person out of their way for you. It's not out of their way if it's their job. And it's truly rude to write that note. I don't think it was intentional the way it was worded, but it really makes a customer feel like they aren't wanted.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:46 pm to CAD703X
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and i'll add my 2 cents..there is PLENTY TO DO to shut down a restaurant after closing
You do realize that restaurants start doing a lot of this stuff way prior to closing especially on a slow night right?
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