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re: Which side are you on- Nurse or Dominos Pizza?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:14 pm to mouton
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:14 pm to mouton
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You honestly do not think it is inconsiderate to walk into a sitdown restaurant shortly before they close and sit down for a meal?
A). I don't get it...Dominoes is NOT a sit down
B) it's up to the business to decide their "no further accepting customer" times!
If they put 10, then that is the time, period. And no, it's not inconsiderate to go into a place that accepts customers u til their posted times.
See, you consider that time the time when employees leave, which is NOT the case.
My long time personal friend owns 164 Pizza Huts. As successful as he is, he probably would get out of bed and deliver it hi.self before pissing off a large customer like a hospital staff rather than face bad publicity!
I get it that you don't get business. The business chose those hrs and they want the phone answered till that time!
Drill bits are a highly competitive market in the oil field. Do you think the owner doesn't want a rig to call in the middle of the night that needs a bit? Even though his office closes at 5?
This is just dumb. Dominoes is not a sit down, so they know their posted closing time includes deliveries which is 90% of their business.
End of story. Any other arguments are just absurd.
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:14 pm to KG6
Out of curiosity, if a restaurant has a sign out front, as most do, that says "Open 11am-10pm".. is it wrong to kick you out at 10?
Because that is what the sign says, after all..
I get the feeling you don't know what "inconsiderate" means. It means "not considering others". And by definition, walking into a restaurant mere minutes to closing is "not considering others". Doesn't mean they don't have a right to be served or anything. It simply means they weren't considering others. Which they weren't. Generally, someone who does that doesn't even have awareness of what they're doing. They're not normally doing it to be a dick. Simply doing it out of lack of consideration ... "inconsiderate".
Because that is what the sign says, after all..
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No, it's not inconsiderate.
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it sucks
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it's pretty shitty
I get the feeling you don't know what "inconsiderate" means. It means "not considering others". And by definition, walking into a restaurant mere minutes to closing is "not considering others". Doesn't mean they don't have a right to be served or anything. It simply means they weren't considering others. Which they weren't. Generally, someone who does that doesn't even have awareness of what they're doing. They're not normally doing it to be a dick. Simply doing it out of lack of consideration ... "inconsiderate".
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:15 pm to CAD703X
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'posted hours' don't mean
Couldn't it mean that they let you sit down and order, and then when the clock chimes closing, they stop helping you?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:16 pm to LouisianaLady
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if a restaurant has a sign out front, as most do, that says "Open 11am-10pm".. is it wrong to kick you out at 10?
Because that is what the sign says, after all..
i'm confused. 10pm means the doors lock at that time for NEW business but anyone still eating can finish up without the chairs going up on tables around them.
if you don't want people in your restaurant at 10pm then change your hours to 930 or 9.
i worked at TCBY near LSU for 2-3 years while in school there and sunday night was fricking sorority night where they fricking lined up out the door with their buy-one-get-one-free coupons and we knew sunday nights we wouldn't be getting out of there for at least 2 hours after closing.
we never walked outside and did the 'les nesman' the line ends here
what business would operate that way?
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:16 pm to KG6
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I worked at 3 different restaurants
And you do not understand that someone sitting down at a restaurant can cause a good portion of the staff to have to stay way longer they would have if that customer had come in a little earlier? You dont understand that that server may have been done with their tables and about to walk out the door? You dont understand that is inconsiderate to not take these things into consideration?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:17 pm to CAD703X
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10pm means the doors lock at that time for NEW business but anyone still eating can finish up without the chairs going up on tables around them.
No. There is no handbook with that definition. That is just what 99% of places do because they aren't jerks. They are bending their business hours for a customer.
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if you don't want people in your restaurant at 10pm then change your hours to 930 or 9.
Only by your definition of closing time. Not by mine.
Like I said earlier, does Albertsons have to let you continue the remaining hour of grocery shopping because you're not finished when they close? No they do not. Neither do restaurants. Many just do to be nice.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:17 pm to LouisianaLady
The simple solution is for restaurants to clearly post a "last call" time. Until they do that though, you have to assume that the posted closing time is the last call time.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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The simple solution is for restaurants to clearly post a "last call" time. Until they do that though, you have to assume that the posted closing time is the last call time.
This is the truth.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:18 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Nurse has a point, but GTFOI and quit trying to parlay this into a free meal. Be glad you got an apology.
Apologies are free. You are saying the Pizza place can be as rude as they want as many times as they want as long as they apologize.
A bought lesson is a well learned lesson! Make the pizza place pay a penalty!
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:19 pm to LouisianaLady
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Only by your definition of closing time. Not by mine.
what? it doesnt matter if its sams club or tcby or the local DMV. you take customers until the time you close.
cleaning up/breaking down the kitchen happens AFTERWARD and i mean..you are getting paid to do it so its not like its a hardship to work another hour to properly shut things down.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:21 pm to CAD703X
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what business would operate that way?
None do. The point is that if businesses are bending their "hours of operation" to accommodate someone just because they were there before those hours of operation ended, it is on us as customers to hold up our end and aim not to make them need to do this. Because realistically, they don't HAVE to. They can tell you to GTFO before you app even arrives if it is closing time. They just don't..... FOR YOU.
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it doesnt matter if its sams club or tcby or the local DMV. you take customers until the time you close.
Not true. If I'm walking around Sams Club and closing time approaches and I am only 1/3 of the way through my list, they do not tell me to go ahead and finish shopping. They take my money for what I've received so far and they kick me out.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:21 pm to LouisianaLady
To be inconsiderate to me mean putting someone in a position that extends them past what they should be expected to do, at least in this situation. I consider them to be working to serve me. A restaurant I guess technically has a right to kick you out at any time, but not if they take your order and then decide they are not going to give you a reasonable time to actually have your meal. that's a manager's decision. And obviously, Domino's takes orders at the time the order was taken, so what was done was over the line.
Yes it sucks for the employee, doesn't make it inconsiderate since it's their job. It sucks when something hits my desk 30 minutes before I have to leave, but it's not inconsiderate of my boss to give it to me since I am expected to get work done when it's needed to be done. 5 is a nice time to leave, but my hours don't say, drop what you are doing at 5 no matter what. It's just the job. A restaurant job usually has no "end" time. You work until you are cut. It's that simple and well known. You have a start time, then a time where you are no longer needed. If you are closing, you are there until it's done. I've walked out to daylight after long shifts (we closed very late). It's just the business.
Yes it sucks for the employee, doesn't make it inconsiderate since it's their job. It sucks when something hits my desk 30 minutes before I have to leave, but it's not inconsiderate of my boss to give it to me since I am expected to get work done when it's needed to be done. 5 is a nice time to leave, but my hours don't say, drop what you are doing at 5 no matter what. It's just the job. A restaurant job usually has no "end" time. You work until you are cut. It's that simple and well known. You have a start time, then a time where you are no longer needed. If you are closing, you are there until it's done. I've walked out to daylight after long shifts (we closed very late). It's just the business.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:22 pm to LouisianaLady
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None do. The point is that if businesses are bending their "hours of operation" to accommodate someone just because they were there before those hours of operation ended, it is on us as customers to hold up our end and aim not to make them need to do this. Because realistically, they don't HAVE to. They can tell you to GTFO before you app even arrives if it is closing time. They just don't..... FOR YOU.
so getting back to the original point here, what's the problem with dominos preparing a pizza 5 minutes until they close..1 minute until they close or 2 hours until they close?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:23 pm to KG6
Domino's is trashy. Papa john's would never be so insensitive.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:23 pm to LouisianaLady
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Not true. If I'm walking around Sams Club and closing time approaches and I am only 1/3 of the way through my list, they do not tell me to go ahead and finish shopping. They take my money for what I've received so far and they kick me out.
what??
my son works at sams so i know the policy here. they allow anyone in the store to continue shopping and are not allowed to either hound them or shoo them out.
sounds like your sams club isn't following corporate policy.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:23 pm to KG6
To take this a bit further, what about bars? When we closed at midnight on Mondays and Tuesdays, someone stood on the bar and said "BAR'S CLOSED!" and forced you out the door... sometimes in a not-so-nice manner. Why are people not bitching about that?
Look, I get what you're saying. People just seem to think they have all kinds of power when it comes to food service, but they'll happily comply with stores and bars and others industries.
Look, I get what you're saying. People just seem to think they have all kinds of power when it comes to food service, but they'll happily comply with stores and bars and others industries.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:24 pm to mouton
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And you do not understand that someone sitting down at a restaurant can cause a good portion of the staff to have to stay way longer they would have if that customer had come in a little earlier?
Tough shite. It's the business they chose. And sometimes, customers don't have a choice!
What if that nurse just got out of a surgery that went past the expected time? She called, they accepted! PERIOD. Why did they answer? I'll tell you, because they have been told, that phone is to answered at all times during business hrs!
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:25 pm to CAD703X
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what's the problem with dominos preparing a pizza 5 minutes until they close.
Nothing at all. But why are they forced to deliver it after they close? They could stop cooking midway through if we are going by legit restaurant hours. But they didn't. They extended their hours of operation for someone else. And someone decided to write a (NOT very rude, by the way) note letting her know that maybe next time she can order to where hours aren't forced to be extended for her.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:26 pm to CAD703X
I used Sams because you did. I've never even been to one.
Substitute any store. What about any store in the mall? I've been kicked out of many stores as they lower the chain fence out front. I can't just be like, "No, I'm not done".
Substitute any store. What about any store in the mall? I've been kicked out of many stores as they lower the chain fence out front. I can't just be like, "No, I'm not done".
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:28 pm to mouton
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And you do not understand that someone sitting down at a restaurant can cause a good portion of the staff to have to stay way longer they would have if that customer had come in a little earlier? You dont understand that that server may have been done with their tables and about to walk out the door? You dont understand that is inconsiderate to not take these things into consideration?
so why not stop going to the place 30 minutes before? Give the workers some consideration and let them get off 30 minutes early. You know what, frick that.....an hour early. You are now an a-hole for going into a restaurant an hour before closing, since we have to consider the employee THAT IS PAID TO BE THERE TO PROVIDE THE EXACT SERVICE YOU ARE REQUESTING AT THE TIME THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING IT!!!! The whole point of them being there is to serve you. I'm not saying that in a condescending way. It's just a fact. Asking them to do it during operating hours is in no way inconsiderate, even if you spill into after hours. Every restaurant I've ever worked in was still tying up the loose ends after hours. Even my first job in a Grocery store was that way. Doors closed at 10, but if you walked in before that, you got to finish shopping. We didn't tell the people they were assholes on their way out. We were actually still there anyway doing our closing tasks.
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