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re: Which one has set back US race relations more?

Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:31 am to
Posted by CunningLinguist
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:31 am to
Whichever contributed more to the Black lives Matter bs. The BLM movement is also setting back real civil rights issues that still need to be addressed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:31 am to
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Rape and murder are both up in 2015.

compared to 2014 maybe

but not 2004 or certainly not 1984

violent crime nationally is down to levels of like the 1950s. it spiked from the mid 80s-mid 90s and then has fallen like a rock
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:31 am to
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Feel free to illustrate where we are excelling.


economy has gained 5x as many jobs
stock prices are great
corporations are reeling in huge profits
gas prices are extremely low
violent crime is down
historically low mortgage rates
Posted by uway
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:32 am to
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Which one has set back US race relations more? by SlowFlowPro
Zimmerman. all of this BLM stuff started there and there wasn't another major, national incident for a long time after. when mike brown happened, the embers were already hot and were just waiting for some tinder to take off

people are histrionic and irrational about Obama


bullshite
I'm amazed you are letting yourself think that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:32 am to
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that all you got?

i don't need anything else when you used the word "every"
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:32 am to
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Did OJ have a big impact on race relations? I was very young then so I'm curious. Seeing the celebrations that ensued after the murderer got off was disturbing to say the least so I would think that did not help


I was in college, and the verdict might not have "changed" race relations, but it was a hugh eye opener to the wide gap between whites and blacks. Before then I didn't realize how much differently whites and blacks viewed race issues. It's so apparent when you watch the reaction shots that 99.9% of blacks were jumping for joy and 99.9% of whites were disgusted. And then it was like, "wait a minute, why are they so happy?" OJ was as much of a cornball brotha as you could ever be, yet the African American community rallied behind him just because of his skin color.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:33 am to
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well for one, violent crime is lower now than at any point during the presidencies of reagan or either bush

#LogicBomb

So, you agree that Obama's calls for more gun control are entirely unfounded. Based more on a desire for control than actually reducing crime.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:34 am to
Obama is a community organizer. He systematically organized the black community to believe they aren't the problem and white people are, and then got them to band together and protest everything they can.

You've got to ask yourself....was race anywhere near as big a problem 7 years ago? We now have blacks being overtly racist all over the country, and people are backing them and telling them it is only okay for them to be racist.

Just look at how many black people he's invited to the White House vs how many white people.

They refuse to accept that they are holding themselves back, and instead, scapegoat everything they can to justify doing bad shite. I mean, they're blaming their murder rate on statues that have been in place for a hundred years. What kind of logic is that?


Obama my a thousand miles has been the worst thing for race relations in the the past 100 years
This post was edited on 11/21/15 at 8:47 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:35 am to
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I'm amazed you are letting yourself think that.

i imagine i interact with black people, especially young, black people, more than most on this board

that trayvon verdict had black people destroyed the next day/week. twitter was set ablaze, too

that situation laid the foundation
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:35 am to
But you do Now since BRGTN pointed out the increased violent crime in NOLA. Try again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:36 am to
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So, you agree that Obama's calls for more gun control are entirely unfounded. Based more on a desire for control than actually reducing crime.

when have i ever supported more gun control?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:37 am to
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Which one has set back US race relations more?
Obama or George Zimmerman?


Obama by a long shot. He's the POTUS. He takes sides/is divisive not just in the George Zimmerman case but in multiple issues in which the outcome/law had not yet decided said cases. He has been the most divisive President in U.S. history.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:37 am to
In other news I just learned that the guy who covered Reginald Denny getting hit in the head with a brick and the OJ chase is now a she.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:39 am to
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But you do Now since BRGTN pointed out the increased violent crime in NOLA. Try again.

it's not worse than 1980-92 or 00-08
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:40 am to
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. He has been the most divisive President in U.S. history.

james buchannon literally started a war with other americans

i'd imagine that's a bit more divisive than anything Obama has done x 10
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:41 am to
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And then it was like, "wait a minute, why are they so happy?" OJ was as much of a cornball brotha as you could ever be, yet the African American community rallied behind him just because of his skin color.




I could be off base here. I think it's pretty accepted that black people widely believed that he was guilty, but they wanted to see him get away with it because they thought it made up for white people getting away with crimes against black people and black people getting blamed for crimes that they didn't do. That's what it seems like to me at least. It's pretty crazy to think about. It just makes it seem like there is an element to how black people generally view race relations as being more about evening the score than actually receiving equal treatment.

The funny thing is that what it really all came down to in the OJ case is that wealthy people tend to get away with more than poor people because they can pay their way out of trouble. That hasn't changed.
This post was edited on 11/21/15 at 8:42 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55457 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:42 am to
Democrats.

Democrats created the problem (KKK, Jim Crow, etc) and now Democrats continue to promote it.

This one is really easy. In fact, you look at the vast majority of US History and look at the root cause of a lot of "scandals", Democrats are at the center of it.

Segregation - Democrats
Suffrage - Democrats
New Deal - Democrats
Prohibition - Democrats
MJ Illegal - Democrats
Federal Reserve Democrats

The list goes on and on.

PS - I was a registered Democrat until 3 years ago.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:42 am to
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when have i ever supported more gun control?

I didn't say you. Unless you are Obama. Barack, is that really you?

I simply asked if you agreed with my statement.

quote:

Obama's calls for more gun control are entirely unfounded. Based more on a desire for control than actually reducing crime.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:43 am to
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Democrats.

well if we're going with an individual DEM, Soros has done more to affect race relations than probably any individual

he is literally funding these protests across the country
This post was edited on 11/21/15 at 8:44 am
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5352 posts
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:44 am to
Obama......like it or not and admit it or not, I think the Obama presidency exposed that we are not as far along in race relations as we thought or represented. We still have bias....maybe it is not so much race bias as it is cultural bias...but it was definitely exposed.
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