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re: Which jobs are at risk due to AI?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
lol how does it help the consumer who has no money?
Who are the hard laborers and janitors and health care workers going to be working for if everyone who makes money is replaced by AI? fricking food and beverage and cooks and construction workers being green while all white collar workers are red is the issue with this entire discussion. No one is thinking about the ripple on effects. Who eats at the restaurants for the food and beverage workers? Who pays for contractors to redo their kitchens? Even if certain jobs aren’t safe from AI directly (which is probably false) they can’t exist if you remove the entire white collar workforce from the economy.
The only way AI works is if we go with a full robust UBI, which America won’t go for until we’ve hit DEFCON 1.
Who are the hard laborers and janitors and health care workers going to be working for if everyone who makes money is replaced by AI? fricking food and beverage and cooks and construction workers being green while all white collar workers are red is the issue with this entire discussion. No one is thinking about the ripple on effects. Who eats at the restaurants for the food and beverage workers? Who pays for contractors to redo their kitchens? Even if certain jobs aren’t safe from AI directly (which is probably false) they can’t exist if you remove the entire white collar workforce from the economy.
The only way AI works is if we go with a full robust UBI, which America won’t go for until we’ve hit DEFCON 1.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Automating all that will lead to substantial decreases in labor/production costs, allowing firms to pass on those savings to consumers in the form of lower prices.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:51 pm to fallguy_1978
Someone who loses their job due to technology isnt permanently unemployed.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Nothing is safe from AI+robotics.
This.
Add robotics and every single job is at risk.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:53 pm to Salmon
Are you denying that decreases in production costs have lead to an increase in consumer surplus, historically?
Not even Marx argued tech advancement made people poorer
Not even Marx argued tech advancement made people poorer
Posted on 5/24/26 at 5:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Someone who loses their job due to technology isnt permanently unemployed.
Some 45 yr old CPA isn't going to go be an auto mechanic all the sudden, not to mention the ones that could would cause a massive influx of cheap labor and collapse those industries too.
Replacing even 1/3rd of white collar jobs would cause another Great Depression type of event.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:00 pm to fallguy_1978
So what exactly are you arguing?
You want a Soviet style gosplan that controls/regulates what private companies are allowed to do?
You want a Soviet style gosplan that controls/regulates what private companies are allowed to do?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:01 pm to fallguy_1978
Also who is going to pay for an auto mechanic if all the white collar workers have been replaced by an AI?
ETA: also the argument that throughout history technological change has never been disastrous but just different is a fallacy. You could say the same thing with weapons development until we hit nuclear bombs. That was a technology that was so different and potentially destructive compared to everything that had come before that we all just decided not to use it.
ETA: also the argument that throughout history technological change has never been disastrous but just different is a fallacy. You could say the same thing with weapons development until we hit nuclear bombs. That was a technology that was so different and potentially destructive compared to everything that had come before that we all just decided not to use it.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:11 pm to tigerfan88
What if you’re wrong though?
What if Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, etc embrace AI and do not see long term, structural unemployment, and instead see rapid economic growth, large increases in real wages (due to collapse in prices), and the capacity to reduce taxes due to govt workforce reduction as bureaucratic tasks are automated?
If at the same time America opts to ban AI, we have ceded our economic power and won’t gain it back.
What if Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, etc embrace AI and do not see long term, structural unemployment, and instead see rapid economic growth, large increases in real wages (due to collapse in prices), and the capacity to reduce taxes due to govt workforce reduction as bureaucratic tasks are automated?
If at the same time America opts to ban AI, we have ceded our economic power and won’t gain it back.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:A shite ton of "customer service" jeets are going to lose their call center jobs.
At the least, way less people will be needed no matter how you slice it, no? The actual job will still exist, but it won’t take nearly the same amount of people to accomplish.
That will be a shite ton of people losing jobs I would imagine.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:14 pm to fightin tigers
quote:this is very true
Jobs making over 150k/year. Below that it isn't worth replacing you.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You want a Soviet style gosplan that controls/regulates what private companies are allowed to do?
No, but that's where we'll end up with all of this. Full blown communism.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:15 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:you think AI can replace Hair Slangaz?
fallguy_1978
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:16 pm to fallguy_1978
“We have to embrace state control of economic decisions to prevent state control of economic decisions” lmao
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If no one loses their jobs then the premise of OP is wrong.
Our responses are based on the premise of the OP, which is wide scale unemployment of white collar jobs but relative “safety” of low wage manual labor jobs. That is a paradigm that people on here tend to parrot, and it’s just fundamentally untenable.
If no one loses their jobs then we never have to really consider this. But also means that a lot of what AI tech is peddling is wrong. Bc what they’re peddling is AI will massively replace workers
Our responses are based on the premise of the OP, which is wide scale unemployment of white collar jobs but relative “safety” of low wage manual labor jobs. That is a paradigm that people on here tend to parrot, and it’s just fundamentally untenable.
If no one loses their jobs then we never have to really consider this. But also means that a lot of what AI tech is peddling is wrong. Bc what they’re peddling is AI will massively replace workers
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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“We have to embrace state control of economic decisions to prevent state control of economic decisions” lmao
I never suggested that government should control anything, only that if the job loss predictions come true, we'll end up living in communism after the whole system collapses.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I’m certain Elon and Bezos will be generous in their UBI cooperation with the U.S. government.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:29 pm to NIH
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I’m certain Elon and Bezos will be generous in their UBI cooperation with the U.S. government.
I've never understood the UBI crowd. Let's give the government total control over every aspect of our lives. Surely they won't abuse that power, right?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:31 pm to fallguy_1978
We live in a low trust society with 350 million people. UBI doesn’t make sense.
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