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re: Where did the Fireflies go???

Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15958 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:36 pm to
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Where did the Fireflies go???



Apparently to my yard here in east central Georgia. There's literally hundreds of them milling about every evening here.
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
Member since Apr 2023
622 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:46 pm to
I’ve seen more this year than I’ve seen in a long time
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
895 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Pesticides


Every one of you crediting it all to mosquito spray and pesticides are completely ignoring one of the most destructive invasive species we've ever recorded - fire ants.

There were NO fire ants in Alabama from Auburn all the way to Tennessee as late as the mid-1990's, and plenty of fireflies, despite widespread use of all kinds of broad spectrum insecticides on the fields. Fire ants wipe out all sorts of ground dwelling critters.

Here in Texas, the most common grass-dwelling spiders have eyes that perfectly reflect certain LED flashlights. If you have controlled the fire ants in your yard with baits or killing the beds, you can go out at night and shine one of those flashlights across your yard, and the number of reflecting spider eyes looks like dew in the grass. Don't control the fire ants though, and not only are there few spider eyes, you can about find the ant beds by looking at dead spots.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22770 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:55 pm to
About 3 or 4 years ago we had a real nice crop in the back of our neighborhood, you could see them really good right at dark, 100s of them. They have slacked off the last few years but you can still see a few now.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79566 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:57 pm to
I don’t recall seeing them in Louisiana much but saw a lot in GA.

And called them lightning bugs.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3669 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:08 pm to
I read they lay eggs in beds of fallen tree leaves. Leaf blowers are partly to blame.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2689 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:08 pm to
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I’m ok with people I don’t know dying from West Nile Virus if it means we could get lightning bugs back.


Truth
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2209 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Remember the trucks that rolled around your neighborhood spraying for mosquitoes? Turns out that spray didn’t discriminate.

Yeah, I hope that spray discriminated against humans. As kids we used to ride our bikes behind that truck in that big, thick DDT cloud.
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:34 pm to
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There is pretty good evidence that we are currently in the midst of a mass extinction event in regards to insects.


Go on...
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66611 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:39 pm to
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More likely habitat loss is the reason and not pesticides

It is both. The habitat loss and habitat fragmentation plays a part in concentrating populations into smaller and smaller areas. When those areas begin to be treated more with insecticides a greater number of that population is impacted, and really doesn't have anywhere to go that isn't impacted by insecticide use (or overuse). We knock down, dig up, or pave over habitat every day, and what habitat is left that we have control over we put back non-native plants and turf grasses that have no role in the ecosystem that we destroyed. In the endeavor to keep those non-native lawns and gardens alive and pristine we spray more and more, American homeowners apply more chemicals per acre to their properties on average than farmers apply to their land. We also rake, bag, and burn leaves, which they (and other insects) need for breeding and overwintering.

It is really the cumulative effect of a bunch of stuff.

ETA: You can't make what habitat is left uninhabitable and expect stuff to survive, much less thrive.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:41 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66611 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:44 pm to
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Go on...

This is a great place to start:

Bug Banter by The Xerces Society: Vanishing Wings


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:49 pm to
Central Bama checking in with plenty
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18265 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:49 pm to
You don't go outside when they are flying
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23745 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:54 pm to
Saw a few last summer. Sparse but they’re around
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18457 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:55 pm to
It's not just pesticides, but also light pollution. They prefer dark areas with semi-tall grass. Not as much of that around as we have continued moving into their habitat.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:58 pm to
Same reason I couldn't grow a damn thing when I lived in Columbia, SC. The neighborhood I lived in was full of masked Karens who had "In our house we believe" posters left and right, so the local vector control sprayed non-stop and killed anything that moved or flied. I never saw a single honey bee the five years I owned that house, despite purposefully planting bee-attracting flowers.

It was the most sterile neighborhood I've ever lived in, just like those bitches wanted.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104308 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:59 pm to
They have been spraying mosquito trucks in south Louisiana since the 50s and lighting bug were still everywhere around here until the early 2000s

So that ain’t it
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44045 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:59 pm to
Depends on what they're spraying. The shite sprayed in my old neighborhood nuked everything from orbit to shut the Karens up.

Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21473 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:00 pm to
We used to call them lightening bugs back in the day
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66611 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

It's not just pesticides, but also light pollution.

I think this one is underrated for many different species. The firefly, wholly reliant upon bioluminescence for mating, is impacted to a greater extent that other species. But light pollution, in all forms, has become a major problem.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 9:09 pm
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