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re: When will the history books be rewritten?

Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:48 am to
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Who's history do you want?

The watered down western civ circa 1987.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:49 am to
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Yep. Generally speaking, the closer in time the source is to the actual event, the more accurate it is likely to be.



And the biases you do get are reflective of the time, not our own. Which still gives you better perspective.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:50 am to
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Everything is fine. This is completely normal.


I mean, without discussing specific instances, it is



Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:51 am to
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The watered down western civ circa 1987.


Damn, that's pretty specific. Care to share why?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:52 am to
I mean. I can’t say I’m exactly surprised you’d take that stance, but alas
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:52 am to
It's already happening.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:53 am to
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Take this bullshite to the Poli Board.


history?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:53 am to
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I can’t say I’m exactly surprised you’d take that stance, but alas



take the stance of not going full melt down mode? yeah, you shouldn't be surprised

I wish I could say I was surprised that you would choose to go full hysteria
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:54 am to
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It's already happening with each statue that is removed.



This....
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:54 am to
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And the biases you do get are reflective of the time, not our own. Which still gives you better perspective.

In alot of instances, primary sources are balanced, at least to some extent, by multiple accounts from multiple first-hand sources.

I do not envy future historians combing through our digital archives in a few hundred years. It is going to be a hellacious job accounting the history of the 2020 riots, plagues, and social purges.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:54 am to
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I wish I could say I was surprised that you would choose to go full hysteria


Where is this hysteria you are talking about?
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:55 am to
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The Soyzstaffel


I chuckled.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:55 am to
here’s your +2 internet cool guy points. ‘grats

muh, hysteria
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:56 am to
Are you familiar with the Russian saying: The past is unpredictable?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:56 am to
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Where is this hysteria you are talking about?


this thread

try to keep up
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:58 am to
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Which is why the best histories are contemporary accounts.


I disagree. 1st person sources are highly regarded, and have been since history became a discipline, but understanding and contextualizing a source is part of a historians job. 1st person sources, without broader context, can miss key elements, since lived experience of a single person may exist outside of understanding the context of that experience within broader cultural movements.

I always use as many sources as I can until I get a handle on the time period, at which point I can reanalyze and question sources, and refine ideas, repeating that process over and over.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:59 am to
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this thread try to keep up


Lol, a dumbarse response from Queen Nancy herself.

"Try to keep up" It must suck knowing you can't handle dealing with life without blaming someone and making excuses.

Don't you have some tears to shed with your "perceived" outrages
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:59 am to
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this thread

try to keep up


the OP posed a fairly reasonable and simple question, don’t let him, me, and the other posters in this get you all riled up. It’s a 4 day work week baw, relax.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:00 pm to
Perhaps I should have said the most valuable. They are the basis of any analysis that occur afterwards.

To disagree with an esteemed scholar, I would rather not take the butcher's word for it than sticking my head up the bull's arse.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Harry Morgan
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:01 pm to
The CNN version or the FOX version?
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