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Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am to
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am to
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I think her message is too extreme, but I think the statement could be "it's our job to listen and understand where they are coming from"



We need to listen and then tell them when they are wrong and force help on them if necessary.

Parents and teachers ignoring or condoning mentally ill behavior is how we got Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Nikolas Cruz. Adam Lanza, James Holmes and others. All exhibited mental illness and instead of forcing treatment everyone all condoned and protected them until it was too late.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2856 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am to
Crazy looking bitch.

Every single time.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9580 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am to
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Some people on the internet told him to is why he thought that.


There's no way to know that without asking.

Certainly, that is my first thought. He heard it somewhere and feels like he needs to do it as well. But I cannot know that without talking to him about it. What if he heard it somewhere, started matching up all characteristics to what he felt, and it was personally reasonable for him to feel like he was a girl, even though everything he is feeling is normal for a boy to feel?

What's going to work better?

"I understand you're feeling that way. Here's why you probably aren't a girl"

Or

"You aren't a girl, you heard some BS on the internet. No computer for a month"

Seems pretty obvious if the goal is to love your child and hope their outcomes are as good as possible, you'd choose the first option. The second one is going to get talked about in therapy. When they're a girl.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33633 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:52 am to
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"When our children tell us who they are, it's our job as grown-ups to listen and to..



This is what happens when you give more credence to emotional arguments rather than logical thought.

Andy Griffith nailed it:



Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105854 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:53 am to
You’re going to be way too rational for how this thread will inevitably go. But you’re not wrong.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20566 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:53 am to
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So if your son tells you he is a pirate, I expect an amputation of one of his legs immediately….right?

You say this in jest, but there have been stories of Body Integrity Dysphoria (BID) making its rounds with people attempting to voluntarily have parts of their bodies amputated.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:55 am to
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I know this board is old school, but if I had a son who told me he wanted to be a woman, I would be incredibly curious to know why he was feeling that or why he thought that. I definitely wouldn't start the conversation by telling him that what he's feeling isn't valid. I've never felt it, so how could I know?


Well I already know where my kid got that idea: from the internet, a friend who found something on the internet, or a teacher sexually grooming my kid. Yes, it would be the first question I asked just to pin that down, and then my kid’s life is changing drastically.

Honestly I’d probably ship my kid back to Mississippi to live with his grandparents for a year to get out of that mindset and save his/her life.

I’m in Jefferson County which is probably the single worst and most Woke school district in the United States after Loudon County, and definitely plan to send my kid to Catholic School. No way in hell am I allowing the pedophiles at Columbine to have their way with my kid.
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1068 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:57 am to
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You say this in jest, but there have been stories of Body Integrity Dysphoria (BID) making its rounds with people attempting to voluntarily have parts of their bodies amputated.


You are correct. Allowing a mentally ill minor a sex change is the same as giving a bulimic child a gallon of Syrup of Ipepac. an anorexic child a gastric bypass or a self-cutter a box of razor blades.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2464 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:57 am to
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Odysseus32


There is a rollicking kindness that looks like malice….
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9580 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:59 am to
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Honestly I’d probably ship my kid back to Mississippi to live with his grandparents for a year to get out of that mindset and save his/her life.


I just don't understand what you think you're going to get from this. The kid will resent you. There's a chance they will be thankful, but I was a weirdo growing up. Not to the extremes of experience gender dysphoria, but I was friends with a lot of people who this board would consider liberal, and I've seen this play out.

The child is so unlikely to respect you for this when their brain develops fully. Your intent does not matter when they have cut you off because they feel like you didn't love them enough to actually ask. I don't mean to confirm. I mean to ask them what's going on.

I understand the desire to confirm where you think it's coming from, but you can't know. You're not omnipotent. And even worse, even if you do know because you saw them watching videos, or you overheard it, if they don't feel that's why they're doing it, you being right does nothing to achieve the ultimate goal.
Posted by Bowstring1
Member since Sep 2016
198 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:03 am to
It is our responsibility as humans to acknowledge truth! Truth is not debatable, and there is only one truth. It is simply a question of whether we choose to accept it or not.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:03 am to
That is one of the dumbest ideas that progressives push.

Children know nothing. Their opinions are generally irrelevant.

This idea that we should listen to their views is asinine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:05 am to
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That is one of the dumbest ideas that progressives push.

Children know nothing. Their opinions are generally irrelevant.



Its just another vapid softball chant. I am not even sure these bitches believe half of what they say.


Its an outrageous concept, to accept the words of all children all the time.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:06 am to
We shouldn’t even consider the opinions of most adults, let alone children.

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72557 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:06 am to
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I thought I was a pirate when I was 5 so I told my mom I was. She lopped off my hand and it replaced with a hook, then poked out my left eye and made me wear a patch. Such a loving mom.
You’d be a foot lighter if she’d had the Internet to order this…

Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25790 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:09 am to
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You’re going to be way too rational for how this thread will inevitably go. But you’re not wrong.


So what we should do is, ask them what influenced their desire to transition from a boy to a girl, likely from the internet or some TV ad or the like. Find that person, and slap the teeth out of their mouth.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25790 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:10 am to
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That is one of the dumbest ideas that progressives push.

Children know nothing. Their opinions are generally irrelevant.

This idea that we should listen to their views is asinine.


It's like when the left was pushing that Gretchen idiot in us for climate change.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:11 am to
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We shouldn’t even consider the opinions of most adults, let alone children.



Of the two, not sure which is more irrational ....
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105854 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:13 am to
quote:

That is one of the dumbest ideas that progressives push.

Children know nothing. Their opinions are generally irrelevant.

This idea that we should listen to their views is asinine.


Listening to what they have to say and what you do with that information is two different things though. Like Odyssey said, there’s value in listening and getting on their level to find out why they feel the way they feel. That doesn’t mean you have to go all in on a sex change for a minor though (I get that’s what the person speaking in OP is suggesting, I’m not agreeing with that).

Kids are always going to push back if you go to the other extreme. It’s like telling a girl that she can’t date that boy because he’s bad for her and grounding her. She’ll be sneaking out to see him in no time. There’s a balance in handling some of this stuff.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
1017 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:15 am to
This stupid fricking liberal witch is sitting up there on her high mentally ill horse, with a fricking knife on her shirt and we are expected to listen and respect her? frick HER. Get these people out of positions of power. They are evil and mentally disturbed.
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