re: When did people stop caring about their appearance and why?

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when I go to the airport to catch a flight, I wear only pants and a shirt with shoes that can easily be slipped on and off. A belt is about all the additional accessorizing I will do, and a jacket or coat if it's cold.

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and this is OK. the people in pajamas and animal slippers and tight arse shorts they have no business squeezing into are the problem.

I make it clear from the first conversation that I prefer a woman who dresses nice when required and is self aware of her maintenance.

Then again, I only date women who have a profession (that is not stripping), so usually this isn't an issue.

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This may be a bit crude but there is nothing better than pulling off a loose t shirt on a gal and finding out she has Secret Big Titties

So I don't really care what y'all wear

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You mean to tell me you dont know beforehand?

This is how I perceive the discussion.

I don't think anyone here is saying that someone rolling out of bed with an unkempt beard, wrinkly clothes, and messy hair is a good look. However, they might not care and look the other way.

I think the actual sides here are between (1) the people that seem to think anyone that wears a t-shirt, gym shorts, or flip flops anywhere in public, by default, look desheveled, and (2) the people that see no problem wearing these things while running errands or doing any other mundane public activity.

I subscribe to the latter mindset because it's 90 degrees outside and I'm not putting on slacks to sweat my arse off for some nameless, faceless code of fashion.

Ive fricked a lot of chicks

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I don't think anyone here is saying that someone rolling out of bed with an unkempt beard, wrinkly clothes, and messy hair is a good look. However, they might not care and look the other way.

I think the actual sides here are between (1) the people that seem to think anyone that wears a t-shirt, gym shorts, or flip flops anywhere in public, by default, look desheveled, and (2) the people that see no problem wearing these things while running errands or doing any other mundane public activity.

I subscribe to the latter mindset because it's 90 degrees outside and I'm not putting on slacks to sweat my arse off for some nameless, faceless code of fashion.

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I would say that is a very fair assessment.

I am just weird. I am either in jeans or slacks. At home I would wear gym shorts. Never in public unless its 15ft to the gym door.

Yeah I am weird.

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Define sloppy.

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girls with dirty hair pulled up, no makeup, look groggy/hungover, wrinkled XXL tshirt etc etc

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Ive fricked a lot of chicks

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What is this suppose to mean in regards to about secret big titties?

I dated a chick who had G's but looked like D's until she took her bra off. She was happy that I thought they looked smaller she was odd but decent in bed

Gym shorts outside the house are trashy. I make an exception for when I'm running/walking in my neighborhood or going through a drive thru.

in the 60's as previously stated