re: when / why did women start thinking men want a "strong, independent, career driven" woman?

frick the Dodgers even more though.

That's what women will tell you, but that's not what they want!

I'm no feminist by any stretch of the imagination, however, I will never be dependent on anyone. It has more to do with my life situations than anything to do with a guy or any kind of natural roles. I will always be able to take care of myself.

My wife has all of the above qualities, and we live a very good life because we both "put in work."

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Can we take anything from this?

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dont worry, we wont judge you for preferring trannys over women, to each his own

Go play in traffic

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There’s no winning. If a woman decides her ambition is to be a stay at home wife, she’s a gold digger.

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I love strong driven women, but can't stand career minded. I prefer someone who works to live than lives to work