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re: What’s the reason for not circumcising your kid?
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:32 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:32 pm to Evolved Simian
Higher on what scale? What’s the rate of circumcised vs uncircumcised?
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:34 pm to Manarchist
I had my kids foreskin removed and now use it as a steering wheel cover.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:35 pm to BananaManCan
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I had my kids foreskin removed and now use it as a steering wheel cover.
Should be
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BananaCanMan
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:36 pm to Manarchist
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Manarchist
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:37 pm to hendersonshands
I'm not a hard-up advocate against it, but I do think it's a bit odd how it suddenly became en vogue in America in so quick a time. Your great grand pappy sure didn't have a v neck.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:41 pm to hendersonshands
I see you like cutting up infants.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:45 pm to Manarchist
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Yeah, you’re feelings don’t really amount to much.
Literally from the article you just posted:
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studies have demonstrated that there is lower risk for syphilis in circumcised patients as compared to uncircumcised ones. Langerhans cells that exist on the inner surface of the preputium, are close to the surface because of the thin structure of the keratin layer and these cells are critical for some infections. In uncircumcised men, the presence of the thin, keratinized mucosal layer may allow the passage of viral pathogens to the lymphoid cells (Langerhans cells). Removal of the foreskin will block this potential port. For this reason, the World Health Organization has made a great effort for circumcision to be widely performed in Africa.
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revious studies have demonstrated a negative correlation between circumcision and penile cancer.[19] The most important risk factor for penile cancer is phymosis, which explains the fact that neonatal circumcision is more protective against penile cancer compared to circumcision performed at older ages.
So, between the two of us alone in this thread - we've posted scholarly journal articles that highlight the health benefits of circumcision.
I'm glad we came to an agreement.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:46 pm to Tuscaloosa
What’s the difference in risk?
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:46 pm to Manarchist
Nah. I’m more against it than you actually. When my kid was born we refused to cut the umbilical cord.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:47 pm to HempHead
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I'm not a hard-up advocate against it, but I do think it's a bit odd how it suddenly became en vogue in America in so quick a time. Your great grand pappy sure didn't have a v neck.
Times are a changing and I don't like most of it.
But this is one I think we'll look at 100 years from now and wonder. Like riding in the back of a truck, or standing up in the front seat of a car without a seatbelt while your parents were smoking kool menthols with the windows rolled up.
I did those things and it was completely normal then. Now it's unheard of.
Someone else pointed to the falling stats in the US. So I think its prevalence will continue to wane in the US.
I'm not militant about it and definitely weighed the "social cost" when choosing not to do it. It bothered me to think about my infant being brought into this world and about the first thing he experiences is going under the knife--can't remember if they did or do use anesthesia. But they didn't for a time "because they won't remember it." Which is ridiculous. They won't remember lots of things but we still try to protect them from pain.
My wife was against it at first but came around to my way of thinking. Son seems OK with it, but he did ask me at one point and I explained my reasoning. Not something we talk about too much.
I don't judge people for having it done. I think most people don't give it a lot of thought--it's almost an automatic option in southern hospitals. I even recall the "are you sure?" question at the hospital.
But don't judge people who opt for a different path. I think the decision to not do it will ultimately be on the right side of history.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:47 pm to Tuscaloosa
What are the rates of penile cancer?
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:52 pm to Manarchist
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What’s the difference in risk?
"Significant" according to this peer reviewed journal article:
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Results: Uncircumcised men were significantly more likely than circumcised men to have gonorrhoea in the multivariate analyses, adjusted for age, race, and site, in both the cross sectional (odds ratio (OR), 1.3; 95% confidence interval (CI), 0.9 to 1.7) and in the cohort analysis (OR, 1.6; 95% CI, 1.0 to 2.6).
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
Another bit of info from WebMD:
So, essentially it's significantly safer for both the male and his female partner for him to be circumcised.
LINK
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Circumcised men have a 25% lower risk of genital herpes and a 35% lower risk of HPV, the virus that causes genital warts and cancers.
The data come from a study in Uganda that already has shown circumcision effective in reducing a man's risk of HIV infection from heterosexual sex. The two-year study by Johns Hopkins researcher Aaron A.R. Tobian, MD, PhD, and colleagues enrolled nearly 3,400 men negative for HSV-2, the genital herpes virus.
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Data from earlier studies indicate that monogamous women with circumcised sex partners are only half as likely to get cervical cancer as are women with uncircumcised sex partners.
So, essentially it's significantly safer for both the male and his female partner for him to be circumcised.
LINK
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:57 pm to Tiger1242
quote:I was like six. I still remember that shite to this day. No anesthesia either.
This has got to be such a painful and terrifying thing to do as an adult
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:57 pm to Tuscaloosa
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So, between the two of us alone in this thread - we've posted scholarly journal articles that highlight the health benefits of circumcision.
It's not so cut (ahem) and dried.
We asked our Dr. about it beforehand. He didn't have a strong opinion for or against and wouldn't say it's medically beneficial, on balance.
All of these "reduced risks" are widely held and I believe they are true. But how big of a risk? And shouldn't this be weighed?
The FIRST link that came up with google (Mayo Clinic):
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Definitely points out some of the same lowered risks everyone else is talking about...but also goes on to say:
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The risks of not being circumcised, however, are not only rare, but avoidable with proper care of the penis.
I believe MOST of it is indeed about tradition and religion. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But I also think it speaks to the hubris of man to think we can improve on God's creation--or a million years of evolution, whichever you prefer. Again, there is no other modification we make to infants as a matter of course.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:56 pm to Tiger1242
Devils Advocate, I am torn on the issue but both my boys were trimmed up.
1. Insurance doesn't pay for it, it is more and more common that this is not covered.
2. It is a permanent body modification, some parents think their boys should choose at a later point in life if they want to get the hood off or not.
3. Some people think you get more pleasure uncut, I don't know how you could ever prove this OR disprove this.
4. Many libertarians think this is a violation of NAP.
1. Insurance doesn't pay for it, it is more and more common that this is not covered.
2. It is a permanent body modification, some parents think their boys should choose at a later point in life if they want to get the hood off or not.
3. Some people think you get more pleasure uncut, I don't know how you could ever prove this OR disprove this.
4. Many libertarians think this is a violation of NAP.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:14 am to Tiger1242
It seems like you put a lot of thought into this.
Why?
Why?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:44 am to Tiger1242
World Health Organization (WHO) estimated 30% of adult males worldwide (aged 15+) are circumcised, with about two-thirds of those being Muslims
Are you muslim asking for a friend?
Are you muslim asking for a friend?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:32 am to Tiger1242
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eason to do it are obvious IMO
Less chance of cancer and a slew of other health problems
Cleaner and less chance of STDs when using it
Sign of the covenant with God
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:42 am to Tiger1242
Circumsizing reduces sensation and can cause decreased size when developing
So theres that
So theres that
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