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re: What's the best way to learn how to drive a stick shift?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:05 pm to Retrograde
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:05 pm to Retrograde
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14 years later I would be lost trying to drive a manual.
Man I thought that was the case for me too but I drove one a few days ago for a friend and it was a piece of cake after learning the clutch on the first few shifts. Granted, I drove manuals for 8-10 years when I first started driving but I haven't had one in 15 years.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:10 pm to kjntgr
My dad taught me on his old Ford truck. And I raced MX.
Directions in a car/truck - Push in clutch, while on the brake, put in gear, move from brake to gas, slowly push gas while easing off the clutch, ease off clutch at the same pace you push the gas. Have fun and watch for hills! Gotta move a little faster!
Directions in a car/truck - Push in clutch, while on the brake, put in gear, move from brake to gas, slowly push gas while easing off the clutch, ease off clutch at the same pace you push the gas. Have fun and watch for hills! Gotta move a little faster!
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:17 pm to kjntgr
Drive on flat areas first, then once you get the hang of starting and stopping.
Then find a hill where you can stop facing uphill to learn how to start moving without stalling.
Then find a hill where you can stop facing uphill to learn how to start moving without stalling.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:21 pm to kjntgr
What's really fun is learning how to drive an 18 wheeler. Had to learn on the catfish farm...already knew how to drive a truck with a stick. Then my dad threw me in a Mack truck one day loaded down with water and live fish and said haul them to a farm 45 min away. Told me only difference is don't use the clutch after 1st gear. It's tricky to time the rpm just right to get a smooth shift
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:24 pm to kjntgr
1) find some one who can drive a stick and ride around the block and down the highway some with the radio off. Pay attention to the sounds of the engine and when the driver shifts. If you've spent your life driving modern automatics you may be surprised how high you can let the RPM drift before upshifting.
2) this should have been point 1 - if for some reason you've learned to drive an automatic as a 2-footed driver, reprogram yourself now or you're going to kill somebody when you're driving a stick and your left foot has something better to do
3) do everything that someone prescribed above to find the sweet spot on the clutch. I'll also add if it's a car or newer stick, reposition your heel so that this is the most comfortable position for your left foot. If it's an old truck the clutch travel will be so far that your heel doesn't really matter.
2) this should have been point 1 - if for some reason you've learned to drive an automatic as a 2-footed driver, reprogram yourself now or you're going to kill somebody when you're driving a stick and your left foot has something better to do
3) do everything that someone prescribed above to find the sweet spot on the clutch. I'll also add if it's a car or newer stick, reposition your heel so that this is the most comfortable position for your left foot. If it's an old truck the clutch travel will be so far that your heel doesn't really matter.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:31 pm to BRIllini07
Best way to learn is jump in and go.
When I was in college I worked at a store that rented U-Haul trucks.
We had to go pick up two trucks that were being transferred. We got dropped off and they were both 26ft trucks with stick shift.
I told my boss... "I have never driven a manual"
His response was... "Better learn fast then"
So my first time driving a stick was a 26ft U-Haul truck from Florida Blvd past Cortana to fricking Millerville Rd at 4:30pm on a damn Friday
When I was in college I worked at a store that rented U-Haul trucks.
We had to go pick up two trucks that were being transferred. We got dropped off and they were both 26ft trucks with stick shift.
I told my boss... "I have never driven a manual"
His response was... "Better learn fast then"
So my first time driving a stick was a 26ft U-Haul truck from Florida Blvd past Cortana to fricking Millerville Rd at 4:30pm on a damn Friday
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:17 pm to kjntgr
Get someone with an old 4 wheel drive and put it in 4 low. It's damn near impossible to kill it in 4 low. That's how I learned.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:37 am to kjntgr
I learned at the hunting camp when I was 11 or 12. My uncle has this old s10 we'll use to move bigger stuff or if we have 4-5 people going to the creek. I grew up riding dirt bikes and 4-wheelers, so I knew about the clutch and shifting. Took me a few times, but felt like a badass once I got it and drove out to the duck blind by myself. Hitting a few mud holes on the way and not getting stuck or stalled made me feel pretty awesome tbh.
I never drove a stick shift after that weekend lol but I got a manuel-transmission Honda Civic when I was 19 and it was like riding a bike.
I never drove a stick shift after that weekend lol but I got a manuel-transmission Honda Civic when I was 19 and it was like riding a bike.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:54 am to kjntgr
I taught a girl to drive one in less than an hour by sitting at the bottom of a slope and having her let off the clutch slowly until the car started forward up the hill and then pressing the clutch in and rolling back then braking when back on flat ground. Repeat quickly for about 15 minutes until super smooth and then go for a slow drive around the block for 15 minutes. The last 20 minutes practice making white smoke and fish-tailing.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:23 am to kjntgr
My grandfather was a farmer so I learned on John Deere tractors and rice trucks, then cars, then a racing quad. I drove sticks for probably 2 years before I drove my first automatic. You will find yourself going for the clutch without thinking about it. It's been 11 years now since I've owned an automatic.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 3:33 am
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:22 am to kjntgr
Just get in it and drive. It won't take long. It's easy you just have to do it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:32 am to Placebeaux
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Start in a diesel truck. If you can drive a pulp wood truck you can drive any stick shift.
FIFM. That's what I learned in. If I didn't burn the clutch up learning how to drive that thing nobody ever will.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:40 am to CapperVin
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tractor on a farm
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Dirt bike
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Old Jeep
All good ideas. It isn't hard. It's just muscle memory.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:44 am
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:43 am to redstick13
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You will find yourself going for the clutch without thinking about it.
Do that shite every time I rent a car with automatic transmission! Left foot goes down by reflex.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:09 am to kjntgr
Have your idiot future significant other get too drunk to drive and slur through directions of how to do it.
Yeah I was the idiot and she's still here 29 years later.
Yeah I was the idiot and she's still here 29 years later.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:13 am to Ponchy Tiger
LINK
LINK
Here's Matt Farah who Always has solid content teaching how. Even look up vehicle virgins (kinda nerdy but he dgaf).
Best advice is what someone mentioned before, let out of the clutch slowly with out any gas and find the catch point. Do this multiple times (I'd say 20-30 times in a parking lot) on flat land before learning to balance the gas/clutch, to minimize clutch damage. Once you get the clutch down without gas, you can ease into incorporating the gas/clutch balance. Then move to hill starts, which I recommend you use the e-brake (easiest with a handbrake). Once again ease out the clutch without the gas (against the e-brake) then you can start incorporating the gas brake balance in hill situations. Start this on the slightest of grades ( coming out of a drive way or something similar). The ebrake allows the car to not gain reverse momentum, which causes stalling and damage to the clutch (I showed a carmax salesman this trick one time when he stalled a vette out like 5 times trying to get over a slanted curb on a grade; he was amazed --"man that makes it easy.") Eveuntally you'll gain the skill that the ebrake is not necessary, though sometimes I still use it. Though, on heavy hill starts, I still feel it is almost necessary (the only good example I could think of is coming out the railroad overpass in traffic on Acadian in Baton Rouge). I recently discovered my 2014 ford has hill asssits which will hold the brake after releasing the petal and disenguages it after the accelerator is pressed. Neat, but unneeded now that I've been driving a standard for 3 years.
Someone's advice with 4-LO is very smart, and would create an easier learning curve. Though I'm sure 4x4 manuals are getting hard to find.
The key is to not damage the clutch when learning, because with proper useage you can make the clutch last 50k+ miles longer with proper technique. The clutch serves as a buffer between the engine rpm and speed of the transmission (the ratios of the axle(s)x tires x gears). The closer the engine is in sync with the transaxle, the less wear on the clutch. I usually don't recommend downshifting to slow the car down, unless you know proper technique. It will cause more clutch wear. I've gotten to the point where I can do it (you blip the gas a little-- Matt Farah shows the technique), though I'm lazy and just shift into neutral while slowing. It may cause my brakes to wear faster, but they're much cheaper to replace than pulling the transmission out my car for a clutch job.
I can go on and on about this, but the basics are to learn on flat land without using the gas by slowly releasing the clutch (atleast 20-30
times with minimal stalling), then move to the balancing of the gas and clutch, then practice hill starts with the ebrake. I'd watch atleast the smoking tire (Matt Farah) video. Starts in 1st gear and reverse are the hardest, shifting into higher gears is much easier. Though, proper clutch/gas balance (finding the right rpm) will also save your clutch for shifts while moving.
LINK
Here's Matt Farah who Always has solid content teaching how. Even look up vehicle virgins (kinda nerdy but he dgaf).
Best advice is what someone mentioned before, let out of the clutch slowly with out any gas and find the catch point. Do this multiple times (I'd say 20-30 times in a parking lot) on flat land before learning to balance the gas/clutch, to minimize clutch damage. Once you get the clutch down without gas, you can ease into incorporating the gas/clutch balance. Then move to hill starts, which I recommend you use the e-brake (easiest with a handbrake). Once again ease out the clutch without the gas (against the e-brake) then you can start incorporating the gas brake balance in hill situations. Start this on the slightest of grades ( coming out of a drive way or something similar). The ebrake allows the car to not gain reverse momentum, which causes stalling and damage to the clutch (I showed a carmax salesman this trick one time when he stalled a vette out like 5 times trying to get over a slanted curb on a grade; he was amazed --"man that makes it easy.") Eveuntally you'll gain the skill that the ebrake is not necessary, though sometimes I still use it. Though, on heavy hill starts, I still feel it is almost necessary (the only good example I could think of is coming out the railroad overpass in traffic on Acadian in Baton Rouge). I recently discovered my 2014 ford has hill asssits which will hold the brake after releasing the petal and disenguages it after the accelerator is pressed. Neat, but unneeded now that I've been driving a standard for 3 years.
Someone's advice with 4-LO is very smart, and would create an easier learning curve. Though I'm sure 4x4 manuals are getting hard to find.
The key is to not damage the clutch when learning, because with proper useage you can make the clutch last 50k+ miles longer with proper technique. The clutch serves as a buffer between the engine rpm and speed of the transmission (the ratios of the axle(s)x tires x gears). The closer the engine is in sync with the transaxle, the less wear on the clutch. I usually don't recommend downshifting to slow the car down, unless you know proper technique. It will cause more clutch wear. I've gotten to the point where I can do it (you blip the gas a little-- Matt Farah shows the technique), though I'm lazy and just shift into neutral while slowing. It may cause my brakes to wear faster, but they're much cheaper to replace than pulling the transmission out my car for a clutch job.
I can go on and on about this, but the basics are to learn on flat land without using the gas by slowly releasing the clutch (atleast 20-30
times with minimal stalling), then move to the balancing of the gas and clutch, then practice hill starts with the ebrake. I'd watch atleast the smoking tire (Matt Farah) video. Starts in 1st gear and reverse are the hardest, shifting into higher gears is much easier. Though, proper clutch/gas balance (finding the right rpm) will also save your clutch for shifts while moving.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 6:24 am
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:30 am to kjntgr
Rent a car with a stick (don't use your own or someone you know)......have your Grandpa show you how (bc he KNOWS)......practice, practice, practice.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:45 am to kjntgr
I learned when i was 19 by buying a small motorcycle. It's great to learn the concept of timing the clutch release. Obviously not the exact same as a car, but after riding a bike, driving a stick was not an issue.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:46 am to Macfly
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Drive on flat areas first, then once you get the hang of starting and stopping. Then find a hill where you can stop facing uphill to learn how to start moving without stalling.
This.
I'd only add that a learning on a jeep or a truck (if you can find it) is a little easier because the clutch is longer, so you have more play in letting the clutch out without stalling out.
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