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re: What's so hard about consuming less than 2000cal/day?

Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:26 pm to
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How about this…you worry about what you eat and I’ll worry about what I eat. If we would all mind our own damn business, this world would be a much better place.


Except that all of our insurance premiums are higher because of fatties and smokers. So it’s literally costing us money.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 3:02 pm to
I'm almost 50 and eat around 3500 cal a day and weigh the same as I did at 21. Sugar and simple carbs are the enemy.
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
1073 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 3:26 pm to
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That is true. However too many people say just exercise. Well if your fat arse can barely do anything,


At this point, just walking is exercising. You progress from walking to actual exercising.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11412 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 4:46 pm to
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I drink an extra day’s worth of calories every week in beer.
beer is the only answer.

Maybe we just need to add another day to the week and it will be alright
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
1073 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:11 pm to
Not a problem Brocefus. I just don’t want to hear one got damn word out of your mouth about your shitty life style choices when you can’t afford your health care.
Posted by hillrosetiger
BR
Member since Jul 2011
232 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:15 pm to
So what is your solution, government mandated diet choices?
Posted by hillrosetiger
BR
Member since Jul 2011
232 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:19 pm to
Won’t be a problem, I am not unhealthy and have worked and saved my entire life. I just believe in the freedoms that are bestowed upon us as citizens of the USA. This isn’t nazi germany, we are all free to live the life we choose.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9994 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:32 pm to
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I am down to 228 after five weeks, have more energy, and don’t really drink coffee anymore.


Thats awesome. You have a great plan going
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
1073 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:33 pm to
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. This isn’t nazi germany, we are all free to live the life we choose


No one is enforcing any mandates, just as no one cares that you have saved. You do have the freedom to make poor choices. You don’t have to believe in it because you can make it your own reality. Take your Nazi germany rhetoric to the poli board and of course we all have the freedom to live the life we choose you doofus.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10506 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:35 pm to
Its not about consuming less than 2000 calories a day.

Its about how much you move, manipulate your metabolsim and put the calories to work.

There are some female clients my former bodybuilding coach had that were consuming 400+ grams of carbs per day and still 160 pounds.

Difference is they are eating 400g of carbs via rice/fruit/potatoes, while the average american will get half that through sugar and foods that have no nutritional value
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30026 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:17 pm to
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Its not about consuming less than 2000 calories a day.


2000 calories is just a near random baseline for men. It is probably only accurate for a small percentage of men. It also assumes 100% uptake and everyone's body is different. An easily identifiable lack of uptake is when you eat a lot of nuts, unless you turn the cashews into cashew butter you are going to crap out a lot of chunks which all contain calories that did not make it into your body.

The reality is to lose weight you have to be at a caloric deficit. How you get there is going to be different for different people. You can eat less or burn more. The break even point is going to vary from individual to individual and from day to day for each of them unless they have a remarkably stable energy usage. As Bigpappi pointed out the body is very efficient and can manipulate its energy usage. As best I can tell my BMR is around 2100 calories and I burn on average 1,800 calories per day in exercise. When I eat 3800-3900 calories a day my weight stays stable. If I drop below I lose weight but not quite at the level one would expect (maybe 85%) presumably my body is either uptaking more calories from the food or using them in a more efficient manner. So yes there is nothing magical about 2,000 calories for a man. It is also very unlikely that a man that only eats 2,000 calories a day ever gets 100 pounds overweight. Numbers vary but the getting your body to burn more calories than it uptakes is the only road to weight lose how one gets there is for them to choose and execute.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:20 pm to
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I can eat 2 at a time easy.


Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68568 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:20 pm to
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1,800 calories per day in exercise.


You running a half marathon every day?
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53106 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:33 pm to
I’ve lost 30 pounds from working out lifting and cardio. The cardiologist said to concentrate on cardio.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/25/24 at 7:31 am to
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2000 calories is just a near random baseline for men. It is probably only accurate for a small percentage of men.


It’s also a very OLD “standard” that I can remember hearing as a VERY young child parked in the floor in front of a console tv playing with inanimate toys, and I turned 60 this summer.
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The reality is to lose weight you have to be at a caloric deficit. How you get there is going to be different for different people.


Apparently the “form”, the source, matters also which is not surprising considering evolution evident in other species to adapt to food sources has lead to a change in biological processes within a genus, some might argue leading to a variation of species. We know different diets can lead to variations of at least intensity of coloration and patterns.

The world majority population did not evolve on a corn based diet. The internal processes of mankind including but not limited to caloric intake are relatively new for corn. Rice, wheats, potatoes were our primary carbs and we didn’t use much if any other “seed” oils rather animal fat in various forms and sources. Evolutionary wise it’s a much more recent trend to also not be suffering from a deficiency of some kind too which affects our metabolic responses.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 11:21 am to
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So what is your solution, government mandated diet choices?


No. Shame these people into submission.
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