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What to do prior to laying paving stones...

Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:29 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:29 am
So I’m clearing out a small area of vegetation in the back yard. It’s a work in progress, and has been for some time now. I’m thinking of ripping up this viney shite that has been growing and just throwing down some paving stones over a 15-20 square foot area. Under this vine crap is just dirt. Nothing special. I? still have some leftover sand bags from the hurricane. Is this suitable to lay down before the stones to even things out a bit?
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:31 am to
Sand, baw
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:32 am to
Clear out all the grass and leaves, etc. Spread levelling sand. Lay pavers down. Fill in between with hardening/finishing sand. Brush everything off very lightly. Water/mist the finishing sand to let it harden.

Voila
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:35 am to
Also...on a similar note. Anything special to do before throwing down a weed mat? I am going to clear the land, scrape up all of the dirt, loose twigs, etc.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:36 am to
You can spray poison but I wouldn’t recommend that. It can carry over into other areas of the yard and kill grass/beds.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:37 am to
Bluntly speaking, I just want to get rid of the weedy areas of the yard. They have been here since I moved in. I am not particularly interested in having beautiful sod ready to replace. I am okay with stones, rock gardens, etc
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:38 am to
Besides the above tips of using sand to float your pavers and make them level I would recommend putting ground cover sheeting under that sand so that in five years you don't have weeds growing up around your pavers.

It's cheap, easy to install, and effective.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99093 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:38 am to
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What to do prior to laying paving stones... by TexasTiger08


Take them to a nice dinner and maybe a movie.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34509 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:40 am to
I know you were trying to be funny and all, but your comment doesn’t even make sense
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Also...on a similar note. Anything special to do before throwing down a weed mat?
You could spray roundup if you want. Also, make sure you get the finishing sand that hardens. It supposedly doesnt allow weeds to come up through the pavers.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:47 am to
They make some vicious scorched earth ground clearing poisons at Home Depot. I have a gravel side yard that sprayed with it, but it doesn’t connect to any vegetation and drains away from my yard so it limited impact.

Just ask the people there. It works well.

ETA:

I also know a guy that mixed salt with his leveling sand and it worked to kill everything
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23469 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

What to do prior to laying paving stones...


Make sure that you have the money to pay the contractor.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166322 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:51 am to
quote:

I know you were trying to be funny and all, but your comment doesn’t even make sense



it makes sense, before he "lays" the stones.. he's making a joke that he's going to make love to the stones, hence the nice dinner and movie.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:54 am to
You better lay some plastic down under them unless you want those vines, weeds and grass growing up around them for years and being a pain in our arse
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I know you were trying to be funny and all, but your comment doesn’t even make sense


Maybe not to you....
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:02 pm to
You will want a 4" compacted base of 6/10 limestone extending 6" beyond the borders. Bring the limestone in 2-3" at a time. Compact each time until you have 4" base. Then, add paving sand. Screed it. You want 1" or less of sand. Then, without stepping on the sand begin laying pavers. Add edge restraint. Sweep polymeric sand into joints. Run compactor over pavers. Use blanket so as not to scratch stones. Keep doing this until joints are filled. Follow instructions for curing the polymeric sand. When done you can marvel at your genius.

Or, you can just throw pavers down on too of dead grass and call it a day. Six months later you will regret it, though.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

You could spray roundup if you want.
Won't affect dormant seeds. Could use preemergent.
quote:

Also, make sure you get the finishing sand that hardens. It supposedly doesnt allow weeds to come up through the pavers.
I can verify this helps but won't stop all of it.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30043 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:08 pm to
t to do prior to laying paving stones... drink lots of beer
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15767 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:12 pm to
You probably right, but he said 15’- 20’ sf. So that’s like a 5x4’ area. Max

He doesn’t have to overthink this.

OP could have probably have this completed in less time than keeping up with this thread.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4151 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:14 pm to
Level out dirt

Compact

Put down visqueen

Use 3" sand

Compact

Lay stones using sand to level

Compact and fill like the guys above said
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