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re: What started New Orleans on its downward trajectory?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:38 pm to yaboidarrell
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:38 pm to yaboidarrell
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Nola East (an area almost as big as the rest of the city) is probably 50% vacant. That's a good thing considering the current makeup of the East.
There wasn't much living in the East in the 60s. Most of that was built up in the 70s into the early 80s. That's why the foreclosures out there were so bad when the oil bust hit. No one had any equity to ride it out.
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:41 pm to GentleJackJones
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New Orleans in a similar capacity as Charleston.
Without the FQ New Orleans would be Charleston.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:50 pm to TJG210
Corrupt and archaic politics
Led to big oil and airlines bee lining for Houston and Atlanta
Intracoastal Waterway opened up secondary ports like Houston and Gulfport and others, cost huge losses of tonnage
Culcha started voting in its own, adding even more incompetence to corruption, which led to further erosion of big corporations
Public education ongoing issues
Led to big oil and airlines bee lining for Houston and Atlanta
Intracoastal Waterway opened up secondary ports like Houston and Gulfport and others, cost huge losses of tonnage
Culcha started voting in its own, adding even more incompetence to corruption, which led to further erosion of big corporations
Public education ongoing issues
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:53 pm to TJG210
What year was the first black mayor elected?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:53 pm to JawjaTigah
New Orleans has the worst poor people in America and it has the worst rich people in America
The folks in the middle get screwed and many have seen their children and grandchildren move away
The folks in the middle get screwed and many have seen their children and grandchildren move away
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
Nailed it all without the socio-economic factors of "white flight"
SOME of which was prompted by the G.I. Bill after WW II not allowing money to be spent on existing homes, but demanding that it be used for new homes. This caused much of the original flight and new subdivisions of the East, Terrytown on the West Bank, and Metairie as veterans couldn't buy in their neighborhoods and renovate.
I'm not soft-shoeing racism, but New Orleans has been majority black for a goodly part of its existence and not just recently, but in its past almost from the time the first African slaves were brought here. Again in 1812 or so after the St. Domingue revolution.
SOME of which was prompted by the G.I. Bill after WW II not allowing money to be spent on existing homes, but demanding that it be used for new homes. This caused much of the original flight and new subdivisions of the East, Terrytown on the West Bank, and Metairie as veterans couldn't buy in their neighborhoods and renovate.
I'm not soft-shoeing racism, but New Orleans has been majority black for a goodly part of its existence and not just recently, but in its past almost from the time the first African slaves were brought here. Again in 1812 or so after the St. Domingue revolution.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:58 pm to RedPop4
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I'm not soft-shoeing racism, but New Orleans has been majority black for a goodly part of its existence and not just recently, but in its past almost from the time the first African slaves were brought here. Again in 1812 or so after the St. Domingue revolution.
Right. Also, other major southern cities have plenty of black residents, plenty of Section 8 housing, plenty of poor people, etc. Those are not characteristics unique to New Orleans.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:59 pm to TJG210
Did OP mean the original downward trajectory of the 1970's because it's on an amazing upward trajectory right now. Stop living in the past.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:01 pm to Picayuner
after ten years of being wrong it took a worldwide pandemic for the ot to finally be correct about nola experiencing downward trajectory.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:07 pm to TJG210
It began right after the last time Andrew Jackson left New Orleans.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well if that's all you're interested in then why not aim higher, like Seattle or San Francisco?
Why would I want to live in the 12th or 15th largest metropolitan area in the country when I could live in Atlanta?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:08 pm to TJG210
Moon Landrieu
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:15 pm to TJG210
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Well into the 60’s it was on par with Houston and Atlanta and then just fell off the map. Did it start with moon landrieu or was it headed down prior?
I know what you're looking for here but to give an honest answer... The expansion of the rail and highway system long before the time you're talking about had a lot to do with it. There was a time in the 1860s where I think NOLA had the 3rd largest population in the country behind NYC and Baltimore. They were also the banking center of the South. There were alot of educated, middle class blacks at that time, more so than other southern cities. They got treated like shite during the Jim Crow era and the ones who could leave, did. Obviously, other bad shite happen more recently.
Honestly kinda sad to think about what the city once was and what its stature was within the country compared to now. Ppl still like to come for the weekend and get wasted but it used to be much more than that.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:16 pm to TJG210
Its founding.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Solvency and Functioning are terms that come to mind that may describe Houston & Atlanta and DO NOT describe New Orleans.
lol equating being on par with Houston and Atlanta as some kind of goal is ridiculous, as if the world needs more soulless, generic, corporate playgrounds.
NOLA can feed you, parade in front of you, put on conventions & Super Bowls, entertain you, but it can't demolish a building.
It can't attract good 21st Century American jobs in any great number.
It simply is not a 21st Century First World City.
Leadership (or the lack thereof) is one reason but not the only reason.
The demographics are terrible by all measures.
The loss started in the 1950s when serious business people realized that Houston & Atlanta & Dallas were viable commercial alternatives to corrupt & lazy New Orleans.
New Orleans: It's like only eating Candy for all of your meals.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:39 pm to TJG210
Edwin Edwards coming on the heels of the Longs. The state government was so corrupt that no world class business would locate here unless they had to - like oil companies.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:43 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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Lack of land to grow. NOLA is surrounded by water.
You could put 10 Manhattans in the GNO area. It’s not lack of land.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:44 pm to Penrod
And, Huey Long did his best to destroy the oil companies. He hated them, and he always cast them as the enemy of the people and of the state.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:54 pm to RedPop4
All while he used property taxes to steal land from farmers to funnel to his family members so they could lease it to oil companies for drilling. Huey Long used the oil companies as a scapegoat and a cash register and used the government against the people he was pretending to champion.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:04 pm to kingbob
The OT should write a book on this. The real question is how do you fix it?
Also when was the Mob run out of town, the 80's?
Also when was the Mob run out of town, the 80's?
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