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Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:55 pm to TJG210
quote:it all started in 1974 with a little something called Section 8. that, and of course all of the oil companies bolting town for Houston.
Well into the 60’s it was on par with Houston and Atlanta and then just fell off the map. Did it start with moon landrieu or was it headed down prior
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:56 pm to fightin tigers
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Corrupt officials. You can blame democrat or republican, but they are one in the same when it comes to corruption in this state.
I was born in 80 and can’t seem to remember any of the mayors being particularly good.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Oil crash in the 80’s
Yeah. Houston was immune to that
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:57 pm to TJG210
white flight
what caused white flight? slavery
what caused slavery? greed
so greed is the root answer, short term and long long term.
what caused white flight? slavery
what caused slavery? greed
so greed is the root answer, short term and long long term.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:58 pm to TJG210
lol equating being on par with Houston and Atlanta as some kind of goal is ridiculous, as if the world needs more soulless, generic, corporate playgrounds.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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more soulless, generic, corporate playgrounds
Yep, frick all of those good paying jobs
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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ol equating being on par with Houston and Atlanta as some kind of goal is ridiculous, as if the world needs more soulless, generic, corporate playgrounds.
Whatever you want to compare it to, doesn’t change the fact the city was a first tier American city and then just tumbled into oblivion.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:02 pm to fallguy_1978
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Yep, frick all of those good paying jobs
Well if that's all you're interested in then why not aim higher, like Seattle or San Francisco?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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lol equating being on par with Houston and Atlanta as some kind of goal is ridiculous, as if the world needs more soulless, generic, corporate playgrounds.
wow
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:02 pm to TJG210
CCR summed it up perfectly in Bad Moon Rising, coincidentally just one year before a new mayor took office. John Fogarty may have been a prophet.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
New Orleans isn’t even on par with Nashville or Austin let alone Houston, Atlanta, San Francisco, or Seattle.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:03 pm to bee Rye
quote:Houston has a shite ton of Section 8, more-so than Nola. The Houston area blew up thanks to being in Texas, where land is plentiful and business is encouraged.
it all started in 1974 with a little something called Section 8. that, and of course all of the oil companies bolting town for Houston.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:06 pm to TJG210
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But didn’t it start way before that?
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The world price of oil had peaked in 1980 at over US$35 per barrel (equivalent to $109 per barrel in 2019 dollars, when adjusted for inflation); it fell in 1986 from $27 to below $10 ($63 to $23 in 2019 dollars).[2][3] The glut began in the early 1980s as a result of slowed economic activity in industrial countries due to the crises of the 1970s, especially in 1973 and 1979, and the energy conservation spurred by high fuel prices.[4] The inflation-adjusted real 2004 dollar value of oil fell from an average of $78.2 in 1981 to an average of $26.8 per barrel in 1986.[5]
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:07 pm to TJG210
corruption or lack of business savy...
There were international corporations that started leaving because city officials made bad decisions.... for example... my fil was vp with dole...the port was big back then...they were having problems because their fruit was taking to long to get off the boats and on the way in trucks....told the city they would build highway system to connect the port to highway better. city said no.... dole moved their port to miss where they had to build one of those long docks to get to deeper water.....
then oil crash....i worked on poydras by the dome along with all the other majors.... it was very active oil industry...similar to houston.
price collapse of oil in the 80s gave the companies an excuse to move(merge) offices to houston which is what they wanted anyway.
There were international corporations that started leaving because city officials made bad decisions.... for example... my fil was vp with dole...the port was big back then...they were having problems because their fruit was taking to long to get off the boats and on the way in trucks....told the city they would build highway system to connect the port to highway better. city said no.... dole moved their port to miss where they had to build one of those long docks to get to deeper water.....
then oil crash....i worked on poydras by the dome along with all the other majors.... it was very active oil industry...similar to houston.
price collapse of oil in the 80s gave the companies an excuse to move(merge) offices to houston which is what they wanted anyway.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:09 pm to Thecoz
Lack of land to grow. NOLA is surrounded by water.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:10 pm to TJG210
moon
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:11 pm to TJG210
Much like Detroit... more emphasis on handouts and less on support for businesses to support the give aways.
People have been voting with their feet for years- see Northshore and new Texas residents.
People have been voting with their feet for years- see Northshore and new Texas residents.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:12 pm to TJG210
I believe the technical term for what's happening to New Orleans is "subsidence".
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:12 pm to Thecoz
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corruption or lack of business savy...
This is the real answer New Orleans can’t compete with fricking Gulfport
LINK
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After months of rumors, Chiquita Brands International confirmed Wednesday that it is moving its cargo business back to Gulfport, Mississippi, a symbolic blow and an economic setback for New Orleans only two years after the company’s much-heralded return to the city.
Chiquita, one of the world’s largest banana and fruit shippers, called New Orleans home for more than seven decades before leaving for the Port of Gulfport in the 1970s.
Local maritime officials and state leaders blamed Chiquita’s about-face on the company’s new owners, who took over the business not long after it returned to Louisiana.
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