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What percent of students is fair and reasonable to fail a core high school course?

Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:35 am
Posted by LSUguy2023
St. George
Member since Oct 2021
2097 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:35 am
I would say 20% is a fair and reasonable percent of a high school teacher students to fail the course. I’m really specifically talking about core courses.

Especially considering out of that 20%, I would say half of them are failing all, or at least most, of their classes.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131398 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:37 am to
You fail all of them that can’t meet the standard of passing.

It is 10%, so be it.

If it’s 90%, so be it.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29174 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:38 am to
20% at my high school (in an affluent Atlanta suburb) would’ve caused parents to riot
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 6:39 am
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72598 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:38 am to
quote:

would say 20% is a fair and reasonable percent of a high school teacher students


This sentence that you wrote tells me you may have been in that 20% of English failures.

Also it's 2023. It's not fair that anyone fails at anything, EVER.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17183 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:50 am to
What % of the educational staff are incapable of passing the curriculum? Especially English?

We teach 12-14 years of English and yet no one knows much of anything about how to speak it properly, forget written English completely.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41629 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:51 am to
The teacher shall retest those students so that they don’t fail.

- Ascension Parish
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17016 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:54 am to
Won’t happen.

You forget that things like this cause hurt feelings.

It’s why standards are lowered and diversity is set in play.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:01 am to
quote:

out of that 20%, I would say half of them are failing all, or at least most, of their classes.

Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
570 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:03 am to
quote:

The teacher shall retest those students so that they don’t fail. - Ascension Parish


Same here. We have to give unlimited attempts on test and I still have 2-5 students failing in all of my classes
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22425 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:11 am to
Students in classes should compete for grades.

Students whose average is top 10% of class get an A.

Students whose average is top 11-20% of class get a B.

Students whose average is top 21-30% of class get a C.

Students whose average is top 31-40% of class get a D.

All others get an F.

All grades should be on 4.0 scale.

Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
942 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:17 am to
quote:

Students in classes should compete for grades.

Students whose average is top 10% of class get an A.

Students whose average is top 11-20% of class get a B.

Students whose average is top 21-30% of class get a C.

Students whose average is top 31-40% of class get a D.

All others get an F.

All grades should be on 4.0 scale.

This is a terrible idea.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
3257 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:19 am to
There should be no quota, but I do like the 10-point scale.

90-100 = A
80-89 = B
70-79 = C
60-69 = D
All others, F

No curve.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 7:21 am
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:24 am to
Standard distribution, same percentage of A’s and F’s. I hated courses that used it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Students in classes should compete for grades.

Students whose average is top 10% of class get an A.

Students whose average is top 11-20% of class get a B.

Students whose average is top 21-30% of class get a C.

Students whose average is top 31-40% of class get a D.

All others get an F.


This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read here, and that's saying a lot. First off you want 60% of the class to fail which is just idiotic. Second you haven't considered the extremes where all students score 100%, or where all students get traditionally failing scores but 40% of them pass anyway. But most importantly high school should be preparing kids to be as productive as they each can be in the real world but you want to turn it into a game.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166322 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:48 am to
quote:

What percent of students is fair and reasonable to fail a core high school course?
I would say 20% is a fair and reasonable percent


20% and the teacher should be fired.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5579 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:21 am to
Less than 5% in suburban schools. Less than 10% rural schools. 90% inner city schools.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:28 am to
High School as it is set up now is meant for the majority of society to obtain a high school diploma. The general standard would be +/- 2 standard deviations so 95.5% of students should make it through, as set up now.

I would love to see a variety of high school options designed to cater to different levels of intelligence and physical skills but we only get that will full privatization and deregulation of the education system.
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:44 am to
This is why most states at one time adopted graduation exams and college require ACT and SAT scores. Different schools pass everyone along and they don’t know the course/work. But we all know those types of test are racist. There is not a standard from school to school. Most kids at Bonnabel that pass would fail at Jesuit back in the day.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:58 am to
What a joke. So we just pass pilots, surgeons, lawyers, welders, electricians, etc rather they show up or not. Rather they do the work or not? Rather they can pass courses material? Incompetence at its finest.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6814 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:14 am to
20% is ridiculous. That's a failing school and something needs to change. Reasonable should be less than 5%.
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