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re: What makes a Cadillac or Lexus better than a Chevy or Toyota?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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quote:Toyota Avalon quote:Lexus Ls460 That a major apples to oranges comparison.
Yeah, the LS =/= Avalon. The LS is Lexus's attempt at a BMW 7 series or something similar size. The ES and the Avalon are the same model size(at least in the last few generations). I don't feel like my ES is overly luxurious, although it's certainly a step above. The LS felt like I was in a luxury car.
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:18 pm to Undertow
Someone I believe to have done more research than I care to once told me that he once, too, believed them to be mechanically the same, but he had recently found out that Lexus has a slightly tighter quality control on even the mechanical components? than Toyota. I never checked him on it, and it's splitting hairs if true. But I figured I'd throw a "jumping off point" out there.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:20 pm to Undertow
Do you even Denali Edition bro?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:23 pm to Hopeful Doc
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but he had recently found out that Lexus has a slightly tighter quality control on even the mechanical components? than Toyota. I never checked him on it, and it's splitting hairs if true. But I figured I'd throw a "jumping off point" out there.
I have no idea what metrics are used, but the only brand that beats Toyota in reliability is Lexus. It could just be the people making the list throwing it a few extra points due to predetermined notions, but that's how they list them.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:31 pm to LNCHBOX
Here's your apples to apples if it makes you feel better
Toyota Avalon
ES300
Toyota Avalon
ES300
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:43 pm to Undertow
Better quality materials, nicer interiors, better performing engine and suspension. Just look at the difference on interior quality between the Highlander and the RX.
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:47 pm to Jackie Chan
That's the exact interior I have in my ES. That steering wheel is nice. I like the look of it much better than the Avalon. But that Avalon has a charging station for your phone that I really wish the ES would have incorporated. There are certainly still things in the Toyota models that compete for convenience/etc.. If I could make a custom car, I'd incorporate some things from the "Toyota version".
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:49 pm to Tigeralum2008
Yep! Too bad the GX doesn't get Toyota's excellent turbo Diesel sold pretty much everywhere except the States. The v8 is really good but thirsty. I wouldn't mind having the TD.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:56 pm to KG6
How do you like your ES? I'm very interested in buying a nice CPO one to replace my 4Runner for work. I've driven one as a courtesy car when my Wife's SUV was getting an oil change but was curious about the mpg/what it's like as a daily driver.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 3:20 pm to Undertow
I don't have the proper terminology for it, but when I look around my Lexus LS I see the sturdiest door hinges I've ever seen in a car. There are multiples touches of higher quality like that. The seams between panels are put together better. The moving parts are thicker. There aren't any rattles. The interior is extremely quiet.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:05 pm to Undertow
I guess price
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:07 pm to Undertow
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Looking at a new Cadillac next to a new Chevy or a new Lexus next to a new Toyota of similar styles I don't see much difference.
There is no Chevrolet equivalent to the Cadillac CT6, CTS, ATS, etc.
There is no Toyota equivalent to the Lexus GS, LS, or IS.
This is very different from Acura, Buick, and Lincoln. Everything they make is based off of a lower priced mainstream model (except the Acura NSX).
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:09 pm to Undertow
I've been in the Cadillac XTS and I can't think of a Chevy that comes even remotely close to what the Cadillac offers.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:18 pm to SabiDojo
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I can't think of a Chevy that comes even remotely close to what the Cadillac offers.
Cadillac to launch autonomous Super Cruise feature in 2017
Looking forward to trying that out.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:41 pm to PlanoPrivateer
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Less road noise on the highway
This is true, I know Lexus uses more of the sound dampening filler behind the panels than Toyota.
The one outlier and one that pisses me off is that the 4Runner Limited has better leather than the mid-level GX. I want to get a GX for the wife, but the interior is outdated and you have to get the top of the line GX to get the same leather as my 4Runner.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 5:17 pm to Jackie Chan
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Jackie Chan
You might as well compare a Chevy Impala to a Cadillac CTS-V
Posted on 6/12/17 at 5:17 pm to bigrob385series
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same engine and drive train,right?
Wrong... one is a Front wheel drive 6Cylinder and the other is a RWD/AWD V8 that competes against the BMW 7Series/S-Class/A8
Posted on 6/12/17 at 5:36 pm to Undertow
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Lexus next to a new Toyota of similar styles I don't see much difference.
No shite?
You ever look at a low end Acura and a high end Nissan?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 5:40 pm to Breesus
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You ever look at a low end Acura and a high end Nissan?
They look nothing alike.....since acuras look like Hondas, and Nissans look like infiniti's
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:22 pm to Undertow
Ride, interior materials, gadgets/gizmos whether you want them or not, head units, resale, general fit and finish
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