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re: What is the appeal of conspiracy theories?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:20 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:20 pm to SCLibertarian
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I mean James Clapper lies to Congress about the world's largest surveillance apparatus and the government wants to imprison Edward Snowden, the very whistleblower who proved we were being lied to. When your government cannot be trusted, you begin to believe the worst about them.
The fact that some people on this site believe that what Snowden did was cowardice blows my mind.
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:48 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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The fact that some people on this site believe that what Snowden did was cowardice blows my mind.
This.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:10 pm to Ross
To not be a gullible sheep! Stop acting like there are no conspiracies you’ve never believed in. If not, your the #1 problem in this world. And the entire world is being lied to by the way. ....on many issues.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:16 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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The fact that some people on this site believe that what Snowden did was cowardice blows my mind.
Anyone who thinks it was cowardice is an idiot. I do think he should spend the rest of his life in prison though. He broke the law and national security to an extent.
I recognize the risk he took, but I mean I don’t live my life any different than I did before he blew everything open. We’re always going to be monitored to an extent, but as long as you aren’t doing crazy illegal shite it isn’t going to really matter.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:36 pm to MarcusQuinn
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You seem to be saying, in a very uneccessarily complicated way, that it’s “incredibly more comforting” to believe that the government will kill thousands of its own citizens and create an elaborate coverup than to believe it’s the work of rogue band from a fringe group with a plan that won’t likely be repeated. My atypical brain disagrees.
It can't be simpler than it is stated, as your oversimplification shows.
It isn't just that people need to believe that it can't be repeated that matters; the need to have the entire scope understandable and relatable does. After all, if the conspiracy theorist thinks the government is capable of engineering one atrocity, there's no comfort in the knowledge they did so without being openly detected-- and they're likely in conspiracy thinking, to do this all the time.
Complex systems yield complex results, even when each individual element is simple. The replacement with an easy answers not only make things more bearable, but also make a person feel like the event is more controllable.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:52 pm to List Eater
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fake stories made up by the tin foil industry
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:57 pm to Ross
It is a form of faux intellectual superiority
Mostly insecure people who have nothing else, so they latch on to conspiracies to feel superior to the “sheeple”
Mostly insecure people who have nothing else, so they latch on to conspiracies to feel superior to the “sheeple”
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:59 pm to Ross
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9/11 was an inside job
Now I dont think it was 100% a U.S. ordeal but to think it was Bin Laden and his little cohorts only is laughable
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:33 pm to Ross
Some are mentally ill.
For most others, I believe that they don't handle well the enormous role that uncertainty, risk, good/bad luck, and human frailty and mistakes play in human affairs.
Arguably the most important single event in the modern world was perpetrated by a couple of 19 year old peasants who completely bungled an assassination attempt the first time, then got incredibly lucky when Duke Ferdinand's driver got lost and ran smack dab into the two kids when they were trying to flee.
For most others, I believe that they don't handle well the enormous role that uncertainty, risk, good/bad luck, and human frailty and mistakes play in human affairs.
Arguably the most important single event in the modern world was perpetrated by a couple of 19 year old peasants who completely bungled an assassination attempt the first time, then got incredibly lucky when Duke Ferdinand's driver got lost and ran smack dab into the two kids when they were trying to flee.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:37 pm to Ross
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NASA
Why wont they explain the sonic boom in NE AL yesterday?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:56 pm to SCLibertarian
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But we have a government that is secretive to a frightening degree.
We have proof of real government false flag operations. Who's to say there aren't more?
Operation Northwoods
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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3]
Gulf of Tonkin
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Historians have long suspected that the second attack in the Gulf of Tonkin never occurred and that the resolution was based on faulty evidence. But no declassified information had suggested that McNamara, Johnson, or anyone else in the decision-making process had intentionally misinterpreted the intelligence concerning the 4 August incident. More than 40 years after the events, that all changed with the release of the nearly 200 documents related to the Gulf of Tonkin incident and transcripts from the Johnson Library.
These new documents and tapes reveal what historians could not prove: There was not a second attack on U.S. Navy ships in the Tonkin Gulf in early August 1964. Furthermore, the evidence suggests a disturbing and deliberate attempt by Secretary of Defense McNamara to distort the evidence and mislead Congress
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:07 pm to Brosef Stalin
^this
I can't believe in this day and age with info at our fingertips, all the world's history, people still laugh at conspiracy "theorists"
I can't believe in this day and age with info at our fingertips, all the world's history, people still laugh at conspiracy "theorists"
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:15 pm to BoardReader
The basis of your argument is flawed. The explanation of how terroists could have executed 9/11 could be outlined in a few paragraphs. The conspiracy expanation would be a book.
The conspiracy theory isn’t the “easy answer.” And fear that your government might kill you certainly doesn’t make the world seem more bearable.
The conspiracy theory isn’t the “easy answer.” And fear that your government might kill you certainly doesn’t make the world seem more bearable.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:30 pm to BayouFann
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And the entire world is being lied to by the way. ....on many issues.
One of the biggest lies is that Bill Hicks isn't Alex Jones.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:57 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Every major event has crisis actors and problematic victim counts. If you don’t know what a crisis actor is .. watch local tv witness to a crime then watch a witness of a major event. The 2 are not the same
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:24 am to Ross
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NASA with work on the ISS and SLS. After seeing only a fraction of the immense mountain of research and work that has gone into each mechanism of the ISS and working out of one of the old Sat 1 test stands for a while, I
I know a dungeon master that has over 7 million square miles of a continent detailed to 5' squares...
200+ hand made Npc models...
Tons of square/hex mats and terrain...
Created an entire world...
That guy didn't get paid shite
Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:33 am to nola000
How about a rephrasing of the point.
What is the appeal of conspiracy theories that are easily proven to be hogwash? Such as that the earth is flat or that space flight has never happened.
What is the appeal of conspiracy theories that are easily proven to be hogwash? Such as that the earth is flat or that space flight has never happened.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:11 am to Ross
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I work as a contractor with one of the major projects I work on being for NASA with work on the ISS and SLS.
Sentence composition ain't your strong suit
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What is the appeal of conspiracy theories? by Ross
Want to know the 1st conspiracy theory in every situation? The official story
Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:42 am to Wtodd
If you are going to comment on sentence structure, I feel it's my duty to inform you that "ain't" is a slang term and not appropriate to use in a proper sentence.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:38 am to Ross
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ain't
It's an official contraction...just like marriage includes gays...
You hate gays.
But seriously...
Here's why flat earth is a thing:
Government lies about most everything
NASA has faked pictures
Now throw in the next point based what is previously listed:
We flew a bunch of rockets to the moon.
Oooookaaayyy
But we lost the technology and can't go back.
Mmmmmmmkay
But we did it...and when we did it one time, orange juice leaked out of the helmet seal, and ended up on the camera lens.
Uhhhh...wait...
I can go on and on
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