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re: What happens after the Mississippi changes course

Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:16 pm to
We all drown
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:16 pm to
But, over time, the elevation of the Mississippi, the floor of the river, slowly gets higher and higher as more sediment settles at the bottom. Likewise, the atchafalya slowly gets lower and lower as it settles and erodes away and there’s not enough flow from the Mississippi diverted through there to add enough sediment. Eventually the elevation difference between the 2 channels will be too great for the levees (which are made out of mud) to hold.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:21 pm to
We’d need to increase the levees along the entirety of the mississippi though.
Posted by Macavity92
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:22 pm to
New Orleans would be a salt water port. The issue would be getting goods in and out of New Orleans. Morgan City probably would not survive but would not become the next New Orleans. Most likely, overland transportation would take over what used to be shipped down the river to N.O.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:23 pm to
Looks like I should become a mud farmer.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Morgan City probably would not survive but would not become the next New Orleans.
There was a PBS doc in the 80s narrated by Burt Lancaster called "Goodbye Louisiana".

In it the then-mayor of MC said he believed some day MC would be sacrificed to save NO.
Posted by Chelsea Blue
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:29 pm to
All of the meth from Houma would be carried out into the GOM.
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:31 pm to
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I don’t think we can accurately estimate this.


There are people much smarter than you that get paid a lot of money to estimate things like this. It isn’t going to just randomly happen
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:33 pm to
The southeast coast of Louisiana, all the land built up around the Mississippi, would erode away. Hell, New Orleans will sink faster and require taller levees and a greatly improved drainage system.

All the while there will be new coastline and marsh building up at the mouth of the atchafalya.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:38 pm to


Fisk, who was the master of these maps, estimated it back in I believe the 50s. A number of models have seemed to corroborate or at least predict the same results as his work (all simply done by hand with computing power).
Posted by Chuker
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:40 pm to
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it won't for a very very long time.



quote:

Famous last words

It will happen eventually.



are you high or just stupid?
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

There are people much smarter than you that get paid a lot of money to estimate things like this.


People who are “much smarter than me” get estimations like this wrong all the time.

A big problem is, that any actual solution would likely be very costly and use up a lot of political capital, so, instead of fixing the problem those “smart people” just fix small things and hope the levee doesn’t break on their watch.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:42 pm to
We can’t wait until the river comes back up to have this thread again?
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:42 pm to
Wel to be fair, it looks like he has just about every possible route covered
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:42 pm to
Part of the water will be diverted to NOLA just like it is diverted down Atchafalaya now. Barge traffic to and from NOLA just like now. Ships would not got to Baton Rouge, unless serious dredging.

There is a rock ledge under the river just above 190 (old) bridge which is why the sand has build up all the way to ORCS, and the river is not dredged upstream of the bridge except to mine the sand.

Atchafalaya basin would silt up.

Laffy would NOT get a port.


MC would go bye bye.

Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:42 pm to
That was the old paths
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

that any actual solution would likely be very costly and use up a lot of political capital, so, instead of fixing the problem those “smart people” just fix small things and hope the levee doesn’t break on their watch.


An actual solution to what? What are you even rambling about?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:46 pm to
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What happens after the Mississippi changes course

We live in modern times with modern technology. Humans will never let the river change its course.
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:46 pm to
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are you high or just stupid?


I’m just not naive. The river may be stable for another 500 years or it may change course next spring. We don’t know when it will change, But it will change. We can be prepared or not.
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:49 pm to
Fascinating map. Was not familiar with Fisk
Searched and found this further information

LINK Fisk Mississippi River Meander Belt

Also see reference here to his maps on this list

LINK List Verse of 10 maps
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