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re: What happened to South Africa?

Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Patsy Parisi
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:48 pm to
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but the hotel we stayed at which was 5-star and in a good area sent a guard with us one night to go for a walk to get ice cream.

Nice. 5 star hotel in the ghetto.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:50 pm to
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What happened to South Africa?


I'll give you the brutally honest truth. Sub saharan Africa's average IQ is 67. High functioning legally retarded. Think, Idiocracy the movie is about them. You have these legally retarded people in Africa running countries.

Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa. Abundance of food being grown and sold through all of Africa. They got rid of the white farmers and in two years, the country was starving. The president of Zimbabwe was begging the white farmers to come back.

Whites built civilizations there and it attracted all the Africans to the area. They then take it from them and it turns into sheet holes because you have retarded people now running it. There is your brutally honest truth no one wants to say.

Just like the states that rank at the top, education wise and are the safest are the ones that have the highest % of whites living in them. That is why Japan is so successful. Multiculturalism never works. Those are all inconvenient truths no one ever wants to say. It is what it is.

This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 3:52 pm
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6749 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:52 pm to
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The "handoff" to go from Botswana, which was an unreal safari, to Zimbabwe was a bit unnerving.


I also went to Zambia and Zimbabwe on that trip and felt safer there than Cape Town, not that I ever felt unsafe but more aware there.

Simon’s Town, SA was my favorite city
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:55 pm to
It was by far the most prosperous country in Africa 40 or so years ago.

Then something happened
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16052 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:05 pm to
There are two blogs from South effricans that I read, the primary one being Kim du Toit's. He links to a long article that is worth reading. An excerpt:
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This didn’t have to be the way colonization ended in southern Africa. The evil of apartheid could have been done away without putting murderous thugs in charge. Rhodesia could have remained a democracy rather than becoming a brutal dictatorship known for its genocidal campaign against white farmers and a rival African ethnic group. South Africa could be a functional country rather than an anarcho-tyranny-ridden hellhole where thugs murder, rape, and steal from the Boers with impunity as the country’s infrastructure collapses and its economy follows Zimbabwe’s down the drain. But, thanks in no small part to US foreign policy, the worst-case scenario is exactly what happened. And now crosses symbolizing the murders of white farmers line the roads of South Africa by the thousands.

Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:11 pm to
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Nice. 5 star hotel in the ghetto.


Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:28 pm to
I’ve worked with, travelled with and become friends with many white S Africans who now live in the US. Very smart people, very hard working and now very successful in the US. They all got the hell out of SA about 20 years ago. All of them still have family living back home. It’s a beautiful and also barbaric place now. Went there in ‘23 for 3 weeks. Jiburg, safari & Cape Town. Cape Town being the best of the 3 but all worth experiencing.

They all love ‘home’ but also realize it’s turned to hell. They all left because of the rampant violence. One of them is now my best friend. He and his wife were carjacked at knife point in their gated/guarded neighborhood inside their fenced property. That was the last straw for them.

SA is a race to the lowest common denominator. Water & electricity are unreliable in major cities. Crime is rampant. The value of their currency is crap. The educated people have left the country. Death spiral stuff.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:29 pm to
Look at any major American city run by (redacted) then multiply that times a thousand.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18376 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:31 pm to
Communism
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18844 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:33 pm to
You mean Mandela was a net negative?

Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
2037 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:57 pm to
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import a lot of at risk South Africans—wonder how that’s going.


White South Africans are awesome- one of my best memories is riding around a village in Mozambique in the middle of the night holding on to the rollbar of a Mazda pickup, blasting music, hoisting the glass of whiskey I stole from the bar we had just left as we fishtailed and did donuts till we got bored and went back home- I usually stayed for a month or so at a time, so it was common for me to have a house to stay in.

The driver was a VP of the Southern Hemisphere’s largest logistics company at the time.

If you ever saw the movie Lord of War or Blood Diamond- a lot of that is pretty accurate.

Our Mazda tirade reminds me of the scene in Lord of War when Andre Batiste’s son picks up Yuri and they go blasting around town on the way to the palace in Liberia.

This was life…work your arse off all day, get f’ing blasted at night, maybe we eat, maybe we don’t, maybe we do crazy shite, do it again the next day. Do crazy shite on the weekend….like drag a boat over to the Zambezi and go see how close we can get to elephants. Always heavily intoxicated.

Good times!
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3065 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:11 pm to
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This was life…work your arse off all day, get f’ing blasted at night, maybe we eat, maybe we don’t, maybe we do crazy shite, do it again the next day. Do crazy shite on the weekend….like drag a boat over to the Zambezi and go see how close we can get to elephants. Always heavily intoxicated. Good times!


Well damn, maybe I should move to SA. Housing prices in good areas look very reasonable compared to Atlanta, Austin and Nashville. Live like a millionaire.

How are gun laws? Any issues with concealed carry?
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 5:14 pm
Posted by ClemsonKitten
Member since Aug 2025
914 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:16 pm to
When the majority of your population is oppressed and they suddenly gain political power, things aren’t going to go in to sync like that. Otherwise, there’s a lot of over exaggerated stuff too. South Africa is my most favorite country and I would love to move there if given the possibility. I’ve never been to Australia or New Zealand though which are probably better.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14019 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:48 pm to
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Then something happened

Some people did some things?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74834 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Trump brought it up about a year ago and he’s trying to import a lot of at risk South Africans—wonder how that’s going.


wut ?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74834 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:56 pm to
none of this is true.
Posted by ClemsonKitten
Member since Aug 2025
914 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:59 pm to
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none of this is true.


So everyone was living socioeconomically equal during Apartheid?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16052 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:14 pm to
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How are gun laws? Any issues with concealed carry?

Well, I've never seen a luggage cart with rifle cases stacked six feet high until I was in Joburg. But that's because the corrupt government makes an insane amount of money from hunting tags for game.

However, almost all of the whites want out, if they can get out. Do some research on the crime rates and farm torture/murders. Then realize that the government is very Marxist, regardless of consequence. Think California or Chicago on steroids. Something you can do today will be banned tomorrow.

I think you're skipping most of the posts involving murders, electric fencing, etc. Aussies do a bunch of fun shite while loaded too, but you're more likely to be killed by the wildlife than the people, like in SA. Try that.
Posted by ClemsonKitten
Member since Aug 2025
914 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:16 pm to
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However, almost all of the whites want out, if they can get out. Do some research on the crime rates and farm torture/murders. Then realize that the government is very Marxist, regardless of consequence. Think California or Chicago on steroids. Something you can do today will be banned tomorrow.


The ANC is a shvt show and only supported by the peasant Africans that never upgraded post apartheid
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