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re: What Eisenhower had to say about Robert E Lee and secession.

Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20182 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:07 pm to
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I ain’t reading allat


Certainly a difficult two paragraphs for someone of your intelligence to get through.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38425 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:07 pm to
Tell me you're a KA without telling me you're a KA.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43692 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Show me where on the doll that the Union army touched you.

Mine and my wife's family, for that matter, are old South Carolina families. 1696 for her side, (famous Charleston family), 1740s for mine ... also Charlestonians.

We grew up reading journals and diaries of our forefathers and the women in the family. We have pictures on the walls of family members who fought, and some who died, in the War of Northern Aggression.

Mt grandparents and great grandparents lived through Reconstruction. Their grandparents and great grandparents lived through the War.

So I heard a lot of stories about the yankees, growing up, and especially about what happened in Charleston and Columbia.

The yankees were murdering, arsonist, rapists, baby killers under Sherman. That's a falsifiable, proveable fact. What Sherman ordered his troops to do to women and children in Columbia alone .... wrll, he's burning in hell now.

There's been a number of books written on the events and tons of newspaper articles all over the country, from the time, documented what transpired.

Sherman is burning in hell.

But then, about twenty years ago I attended this lecture in Charleston by Walter Brian Cisco. He had just had his book published, War Crimes Against Southern Civilians. It examines atrocities committed against Southern civilians during the American Civil War.

So the answer to your question is, that's where the yankees touched me. You might say it's in my DNA. It's in my blood.

There are a lot like me .... young and old.

Oh, and it's only halftime.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23222 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:10 pm to
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A long time ago, our country had a big, sad fight called the Civil War. People argued for many years about whether states could leave the big family of America. Good people on both sides disagreed.

They absolutely all thought they could when we were founded, most of the colonies would've never joined in the first place if they thought they couldn't leave.

The north was just stronger and refused to allow the south self-determination so here we are.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29818 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Debt slaves, yeah.

Especially debt that can't be discharged in bankruptcy.


I actually mean forced sex workers and forced migrant labor.

There are considerably more of each than you might think.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115259 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:47 pm to
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He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which, until 1865, was still an arguable question in America;


It still is.

It is completely constitutional.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41525 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:53 pm to
I believe it.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43692 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:53 pm to
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Tell me you're a KA without telling me you're a KA.

My Son is ... spoke in NOLA a few years ago. Delivered the Henry McMaster's address at the convention as his representative.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102620 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:56 pm to
People also seem to forget Lee was loyal to Virginia where his entire family lived. Had Virginia stayed in the Union he would have served the Union army. He refused to take up arms against his family and friends
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2506 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Slavery as an institution was already on the way out by that point. It was also incorrigible.

It has been argued for some years now that there are technically more slaves in the US today than there were during the peak of the 1800s.


No, it wasn't. Plenty of historians looking at data, policy and public history have stated otherwise. You Lost Cause worshippers just don't like what they're saying.

This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4853 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:58 pm to
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You see that as word salad?
he’s a level 10 retard. Don’t mind him
Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
1626 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Ya'll are legimately pissed it ended slavery.


I wish slavery would have never happened in this country.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
5062 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:06 pm to
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You see that as word salad?

wow


He doesn't read.. he needs pictures..
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11920 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:07 pm to
Chadboy,
If you think that's word salad, you need to pay more attention to people in Hollywood and certain politicians nowadays who spew gibberish and you would go away hard pressed to remember a single thought they expressed.
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