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What do you define as job hopper?

Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12173 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:15 am
At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?

If I see someone hasn’t stayed at a job for more than 2 years before moving on, I eliminate their resume.

Then I start looking at mine. It seems like my magic number is 5-6 years before burn out hits and ready for something new. Is that a red flag esp for a higher level candidate?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Is that a red flag esp for a higher level candidate?
depends on the field
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260711 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
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At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?


In todays market, very little anymore.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6789 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
How is your Bud Light weekend going?
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4790 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:18 am to
If someone is making multiple lateral moves in a five year span you gotta question what the problem is, and I mean literally question it in an interview. “I hate my boss” for three consecutive jobs isn’t a boss problem it’s an employee problem.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2103 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:18 am to
If they’re all lateral moves then it really doesn’t matter what the frequency is because I’m not interested in hiring them. If someone has made a clear path of progression then I don’t care if they jumped every 6 months.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41633 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:20 am to
It’s an employee’s market nowadays. The older generation tends to be more loyal and stay longer but the younger generation has high standards with jobs. I’ve been at my current company for two years but don’t think for one minute that if I find a better opportunity that I won’t jump ship. I do what’s best for me and my family, not what’s best for my company. If I die today, I will be replaced in a month. frick my employer, they’ll be just fine without me. I work most weekends and I’m working today (and some other holidays) - I get paid well to do it but I’d 100% take a $10,000-$20,000 a year paycut to be off more with similar benefits.

We’re all replaceable and nobody looks out for me like I look out for me. Employers need to understand this is a two-way street and they no longer have the upper hand. If we get pissed off, we’ll just move on.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66850 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:21 am to
you’re still allowed to start threads?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44871 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
quote:

At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?


It doesn't anymore. There is no more loyalty in the workforce. Why should employees continue to be loyal to employers who always pay outside hires more than they would if they promoted someone internally? Employees have to job hop now to get pay raises.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:23 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12901 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
I look at salary progression and discuss it with them in the final interview. It’s ok to change jobs, and I’m less concerned about duration and frequency, but I want to hear how it advanced their career.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2083 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
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If I see someone hasn’t stayed at a job for more than 2 years before moving on, I eliminate their resume.
You should also look at whether the job titles change.

If these are lateral moves within the same industry, I'd be skeptical too.

ETA: and by "job title" I mean job responsibility, regardless of what was printed on the business card.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:23 am to
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In todays market, very little anymore

I scan resumes at work to determine if we want to interview someone. It's almost the norm now to have someone that changes jobs every 2-3 years.

That hasn't been how I've handled my career but it probably doesn't hurt to move around a bit when you are young. I'd think most people would want some stability by the time they are mid career though and certainly late career.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4603 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:24 am to
I like to stay in the same place, did 31 years military (most of it guard) and currently working on my 34th year as a gub'mint civilian.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:33 am to
I don't know if I'll finish my career at my current employer but it would really sting to go back to the base level of vacation days at this point. I get like 30 days of PTO per year now.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:34 am
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15802 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:36 am to
quote:

scan resumes at work to determine if we want to interview someone. It's almost the norm now to have someone that changes jobs every 2-3 years. That hasn't been how I've handled my career but it probably doesn't hurt to move around a bit when you are young. I'd think most people would want some stability by the time they are mid career though and certainly late career.


I’ve got 21 years with the same company. I guess I don’t like change
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38791 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:36 am to
quote:


I don't know if I'll finish my career at my current employer but it would really sting to go back to the base level of vacation days at this point. I get like 30 days of PTO per year now.


You negotiate that lol
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:38 am to
I've had 3 jobs post college. 2 years, 10 years and now 11 years.

Honestly I'd probably still be with my previous employer if our business unit hadn't gotten sold off. I used to love working there but everything went to shite pretty quickly.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12612 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:39 am to
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You should also look at whether the job titles change.


Job titles are horribly misleading. I’ve had titles such as Director, Corporate Manager, Associate Director, and now just basically “engineer” and I’m making more money and than in any of those other roles with seemingly better job titles.

“Job hopping” is sometimes the only way to increase salary and continue learning/growing in some areas without relocating.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:39 am to
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You negotiate that lol

Some companies won't budge. I know my current one will not. They don't want new employees having more time off than ones that have been there for years.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:39 am to
Changing jobs every few years is common in my industry, so it's not a red flag
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