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re: What do I say to someone suicidal?

Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:23 am to
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:23 am to
quote:

I wish you would step back
From that ledge my friend



quote:

You could cut ties with all the lies 
That you've been living in


And if you do not want to see me again
I would understand
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1533 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:42 am to
FWIW, i've dealt with anxiety and mild depression through my life, but I have been able to manage those much better in recent years.

For the past 10 years, I have had an anger problem due to some past circumstances, and I came to realize I processed hurt through anger (just shouting / hurtful words, nothing physical). My anger issue has ultimately led to the demise of a couple relationships. After my most recent one, I decided maybe I did need help and didn't want to be angry anymore.

I'm about 7 therapy sessions in, and its been amazing. Friends and co-workers said they can sense how much lighter and happier I seem. I get triggered much less, i'm more relaxed and more patient. In truth, it has been life changing and will save my personal life and likely help me in my professional life.

I brushed off the thought of therapy for years, but it's the best thing I ever did. I would highly recommend it to your friend. For him that sounds like whats needed more so than being medicated by a psychiatrist -- for someone that doesn't have serious issues, medicines will only numb the pain, but won't help heal the wound.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 4:44 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:46 am to
Tell him to seek professional help.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:52 am to
I would probably talk to him about how he should be open / talk with his wife rather than just up and telling her.

You definitely dont want him to close off from everyone, which could happen if he feels like you broke his trust in some way
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:15 am to
OP, someone that is even thinking of taking their life is nothing to play with.

Today makes two years that my son took his life.

The pain left behind is unreal.

LINK
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
7039 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:18 am to
Wtf?
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:35 am to
Say don’t be selfish.

Get some help.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21584 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:46 am to
The professional help comment is spot on.
Suicide is one of the top ten causes of death in America. For young people, it is number 2.

Let him know he is not alone.
Does he have a plan? If so, go to ER or call 911.
Does he own or have access to a gun?
Suicide completions are almost 100% with firearms.
Lock them up or remove them from him.
Get a locked medicine box.

Feelings are always temporary. IF you give it time, feelings will change. Help him understand how he is part of the puzzle for everybody who loves and cares about him. Help him find reasons to live to the next hour, day, week, year.

The feelings are real. He may be suffering from depression and need medication.
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3835 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:55 am to
Thanks everyone for the awesome advice. He and I have talked a couple times since yesterday and he is calling some therapists this morning. He has some of those same anger issues and I think the therapy stuff might help. shite, it sounds like it might help me.

Thanks again everyone.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21584 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Prayer Church Talk to a pastor Invite him to church with you Go to church with him A Bible study Etc


No.

Brain chemistry issues cannot be solved by this.
Some pastors are more trained than others.
I dealt with a situation where a young man told me he was anxious about the future. I suggested he talk with a pastor. Two days later he tried to kill himself.

Belief in God can help with stress management, but organic brain disease needs medication and psychological counseling.

Even Christians get depression and other mental illnesses.

This is like telling people with high blood pressure to not worry about medications and just pray and talk to the preacher.

I am a Christian, but I go to a cardiologist and and internist who I pray will do their best for me.

People with mental illness need professional help.
It is sickness, not sin.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37325 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:29 am to
try to get him some help...

but remind him (and yourself) that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem!!!
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2707 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:31 am to
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I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:36 am to
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Yes, he said he didn’t know what to do. And I told him I don’t either but the first step would be to talk to a professional. 

Alcohol isn’t the problem.


First, I think you did all you could for him. Supporting him and trying to get him help is being a good friend.

No disrespect, but you're probably not a therapist. Routing him to someone who is instead of trying to do it yourself is responsible.

On alcohol, it may not be the cause, but I'd be worried that people do things drunk they don't do sober. It lowers inhibitions, and if he's already considering suicide, you don't want that inhibition lowered.

Best of luck to your buddy, it's great you're trying to help him.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:21 pm to
You get them to reach out to someone who actually handles this. Things to keep in mind. It is NOT FAIR he put you in this position. If you try to help and he goes through with it, you are not at fault, again this is a horribly shitty position to be put in.
Posted by adp
Member since Jul 2015
2735 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:27 pm to
Try to relate.

He needs a therapist. Just say tons of people go.

Stop drinking with him. Alcohol makes depression worse.

It's not your place to tell him what to do. Only he can stop drinking.

Try to find a sober activity and get to know on that level.

Hope that helps.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19219 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:17 pm to
Have his testosterone levels checked. I was put on all kinds of anti-depressant meds and the whole time it was my testosterone levels were very very low. Take weekly test shots now and feel amazing.
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